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Dear friends of the Blog,

At last we've got an International Page. We’re published on the International Herald Tribune for the Clean Up Parliament campaign.
Not one of the international publications that I contacted wanted to publish the list of names and in some cases they didn’t even want to discuss the matter.

The International Herald Tribune has accepted to publish the page without the names of the 23 Italian parliamentarians but with the Internet address of the page containing their names with a description of their offences.

Unfortunately, the truth cannot squeeze into the conventional media, but it has to go through the Internet and this blog of ours is an example.

Today, thanks to you, this page will be read all over the world.

Keep at it! Beppe Grillo.

Download the pdf.

PS: The page cost 48,275 Euro (+ sales tax at 19.60%). In a few days I will publish the list of all the people who have contributed to this showing their initials and the value of their contribution as well as the sum total.

Anybody wanting to participate financially can make a payment to the following current account:

Account name: Beppe Grillo
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Marcello Dell'Utri guilty of stealing money?
I think we all should see and know what he is been convicted for
Are you curious?
then visit this link, the only one I ,as a Sicilian, feel to give COMPLETE trust to'UTRI%20PRIMO%20GRADO

The only thing i am sorry of is that John Dickie, author of the book COSA NOSTRA, is not around to translate it from italian into english.
And that ill probably won't be able to go back to Sicily without having to be 'escorted' by some sort of policemen

Maria Consuelo Spera
63 The Headlands
Putland Road
co. Wicklow

Posted by: Maria Consuelo Spera | December 14, 2005 06:34 PM

Dear Mr. Grillo,
among other interests i am an AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL IRISH SECTION member.
Through your blog i want to express my anger at the italian ministers for DEFENSE (GIUSEPPUCCIO PISANU),for Foreign AFFAIRS (at the time Mr. Leonid Minim realese happened i believe our 'minister'was another FORZA ITALIA appointed MP i do not recall the name of, i'm afraid, now Mr. Fini [as in the HAM on his eyes,i assume]),for Justice Mr. Castelli (as we say in Sicily 'in the air' as he probably is, or floating air coming out ofhis mouth) and our(?????) prime minister HBM(his blattering mouth) Silvietto Perlusconi.[ I swear to god mistyping the last name is PURELY INTENTIONAL]
In July 2002 Italy signed the ARMS TRADE TREATY, which aims at controlling/regulating/tackling the international brockarage and traffiking of arms all around the world[i wish to remind that i consider it a plague for any respectable human being as WE are deliberatelly CRIPPLING developing countries economies in such ways].In June 2001 they arrested a NOTORIOUS arms traffiker and broker called LEONIN MININ.In DECEMBER 2002 The Italian court RELEASED this man,who had clearly trafficked weapons of all sorts in AFRICA and UKRAINE[ as the faxes found by the italian police bear witness], but as he wasn't using 'our' soil he was made to let go!!!!!
As a person with very little understanding in this trickeries, i wrote a letter to the above named italian MPs as i did in the case of a Syrian family that the above sent back without even considering their application for asylum they had filed with 'our' authorities.
I think i have heard that once a signatory member state of whatever HUMANITARIAN law contravenes any such law, it is very likely that it is going to be sanctionned.
My warmest advice to ITALIANS( although not everyone is!!!! i mean whoever voted for MUSOTTO,DELL'UTRI,CUFFARO and so on and so forth shold be scrapped from election lists)is NOT TO PAY TAXES or LET YOUR ELECTED MPs pay for THEIR INTERNATIONAL MISTAKES
PS: I am still waiting for the above mentionned MPs reply on the matter.
I guess they are too busy!
Mr. GRILLO u r my hero
Maria Consuelo Spera
63 The HEadlands
Putland Road

Posted by: Maria Consuelo Spera | December 13, 2005 01:33 PM

I agree with Andrea Cesanelli.
I want to add that the more we wait for this, the harder it gets to fix all these problems.
Most of all, we need to find common ground between all of us that does not like all this mess instead of trying to localize if this or the other guy is a leftist or from the right.
The problem is another and is bigger than us all with our little differences.
Let's pull out all these brakes.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | November 26, 2005 06:42 PM

With this article you have shown the world there are honest italian which have no fear of shown their defects as nation: notably its weak representants.

We hope the world might see that italians are not all like these corrupt people sitting in Kiji palace without intelligence, nor culture, nor morality... ALL but honesty or capability!

We are another thing, and we fought, fight and will do, to demonstrate to us and other we are better and we 'll rise again.

Posted by: Andrea Cesanelli | November 26, 2005 11:53 AM

For Marco Abate:
Do you think that we should not show our dirty clothes outside our home?
Other countries show their best outside and keep their worst inside thei borders?
I don't think so!
First: we now are in a unified Europe, where we can publish everything we want everywhere in this Union because of Freedom of Speech.
Second: the other countries show their best outside their borders keeping their crap inside?
Obviuosly you don't see how lots of Italians are appreciated for their skills outside their country while people from other countries are often identified as drunks, Nazi or else before discovering their professional value.
I think that for what Beppe did on a British newspaper, is adding prestige on italians that are really concerned for their country, showing our fellow europeans that not all the italians are Spaghetti, Mandolino and Mafia but care for their country.
On top of this, Beppe contributes to dispel that pity that foreigners have on us due to this fucked up government that makes all of us the laughingstock of the entire world.
What do you think now, Marco?

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | November 24, 2005 08:37 PM


Posted by: Ina O' Murchu | November 24, 2005 03:50 PM

Being a dutchman, I have been living many years in Italy. I do love this country and I do love the italian people. However, I hate the government and the banking system! Their mistreatment of this splendid country and its population is horrible.
I'll send you a (small) cheque for help with the incured costs.
With admiration, Harmannus de Wolde.

Posted by: Harmannus de Wolde | November 24, 2005 10:45 AM

Very deep political corruption and increasing darkness!
Here in Finland it has happened during last 10 or 15 years: Nowadays it's quite usual, that some hundred businessmen, politicians ja the highest men(and some highest women whith them) of the state and communities now have got all the power in their hands. (Which are mostly Nokias Ollila,like Koroma,Wahlroos,Lilius.. some others very much stolen businessmen, some socildem.,like Lipponen, Liikanen,Sailas, Virtanen... central, Vanhanen.. and rightwing, Niinistö.. politicians).
This is concernig the state, the parliament, communitiens and the few firms of state.
They have given all the people's property to their own businesscomrades, to their partyfellows.
They have sold to their global comrades nearly all the very rich firms of the finish state, in spite of the hole finisch people have worked out this richness and in spite of there are over 10 % of unemployment in Finland.
The 'hole theatro' has gone just like in Russia.
Nowadays this little group of ownerdogs and their very admirers - whithout any own thought -are destroing all the local democrasy (that EU:s slogan!)of communities (which are now over 400). After some months they have said these are only 20 or some more!
The only Finlands mediapowerman, Aatos Erkko, in fact desides what are the topics, which people can discuss; the hiding media.. people must not know too much, better to do work and be silent...
Critics are not in fact allowed in powermedia, for instance in institutions of the state and communities. It is denied... who says something critical shall lose his (her) job or they shut his (her) mouth in other way... this is not any democracy, this is some power- and moneymens dictatorship and dark territory here in Norden. Must discuss and show!!!

Thank Beppe

Posted by: mauri.pera | November 24, 2005 08:05 AM

Dear Patrick Kerr,

what do You say about Blair's wife and the money that had to be used for charity but sadly ended in her pocket?

I have not seen too many british citizen complaining ...

Did Clinton resign after Lewinsky case?

Did Bush resign even if no WMD has been found in IRAQ?

Posted by: Alvise Sommariva | November 24, 2005 02:47 AM

new censured

At 3am on the 14th November, Meri Calvelli, representative of the
Italian NGO CRIC* in the Gaza Strip, where she coordinates a
development project co-financed by the Italian Ministry of Foreign
Affairs, was stopped at passport control, Ben Gurion airport, Tel
Aviv on her way back to her work in Palestine after a brief stay in
Italy. 26 hours later, after several gruelling interrogations,
deliberate intimidation, humiliation, insults and threats by Israel
security forces, she was put on a flight back to Italy. Both the
Italian Consulate in Jerusalem and the Italian Embassy in Tel Aviv
intervened, sending the Italian Ambassador himself to the airport to
try to mediate in the situation. Despite these efforts, the Israel
Authorities were unforthcoming in stating the exact motive behind
refusing Meri entry into Israel, giving the usual vague pretext -
“for security reasons”...

This is not the first time that Israel has obstructed the passage of
aid workers operative in Palestine, whose only access to the Occupied
Palestinian Territories is through Israeli borders. Israel is
renowned for harassing and intimidating foreign aid workers at border
control as soon as they mention that they are working in Palestinian
Territory. The vast majority of these aid workers are involved in
relief or development projects financed by various State Ministries
of Foreign Affairs and the European Commission, yet this legitimacy
does not deter Israel from obstructing them from carrying out their
work in Palestine and undermining all efforts from the international
community towards promoting development and peace in the region. By
hindering the work of humanitarian and development organisations in
Palestine, Israel shows once more its clear opposition to and refusal
to cooperate in any peace process!
While many foreign leaders have recognised Israel’s--->

Posted by: vittorio arrigoni | November 23, 2005 10:45 PM


You are a really courageous man, and you deserve a lot of appreciation for this initiative, because these 23 good men may (and probably will) suit you for defamation “diffamazione”. By the way, this is the main reason why newspapers denied publishing the names of those 23.

Here I would like to explain how the English word defamation has a rather different meaning than the Italian legal term “diffamazione”.

In English defamation means calumny: a false statement maliciously made to injure another's reputation, with a stress on the word FALSE. Instead, in Italian you are committing defamation even when the statement is TRUE, like in this case.

You could say: “so what?” Well, besides the fact that in Italy we have 23 felons sitting in our parliament, we, ordinary citizens, can’t even say this truth out loud without risking to be suited by these gentlemen.

So I say that we should also fight to change the way defamation works in Italy, because in a free country one must always be able to spell the truth even when the truth damages somebody else’s reputation (i.e. our sitting prime minister).

In other words, let’s get rid of these untouchable people.


Posted by: Giulio Maresca | November 23, 2005 09:59 PM

So THRILLED to discover this site and be reassured that there *are* Italians who actually care about their country ... It has been a very sad thing for we Australian Italophiles to live, at a distance, through the Berlusconi years, and to wonder if there are going to be enough of you who have sufficient interest to do something about him, next year at voting time. Now we have reason to hope ! -- even though he owns the Italian media, you have found a way: grazie del cuore, Beppe !

Posted by: M-R Stringer | November 23, 2005 09:34 PM

The principle may be right, but its application is too hard.

You should not consider corruption as the unauthorized enlargment of your house: the first hits every taxpayer, the last doesn't at all.

Further, you should distinguish who paid his debt from who didn't.



Posted by: Claudio Angeletti | November 23, 2005 07:50 PM

How come, I wonder, that YOU make mistakes when you write and then you laugh at ME, and no, it's not funny, it's symptom of deep ignorance.
Italian culture is based on respect for power and titles, dottori, and whoever holds the power is being treated like a little god. Like the local priest used to be treated, it is part of our heritage. People just don't have the balls to stand up and say something, but are in turn very good at making sure that, say, in a forum, everybody knows how right they are and shut the fuck up if you mispel words or think something different. Suit yourselves, you deserve your leaders.
Best regards,
PS I quote - "I prefer going on being a typical Italian (abroad...) he he... ". ??? Pog mo thoin!

Posted by: Samuela Saporiti | November 23, 2005 05:00 PM

Good point. I think you're right... The thing is that those people who accept the politicians who break the laws for their own interest, hope to be able to do so in their turn....

non so se mi sono spiegato...

In any case, it's not the majority of Italian people, but many enough to elect and support Berlusconi and his government...

Posted by: Marco Vecoli | November 23, 2005 04:28 PM

i dont think its true that italian politicians are more naive than their non italian counter parts. they get caught?? rightly so. the difference is that the italian people accept their being criminals. other countries dont. there is a big difference between giving innacurate information that you in turn had been given, in Blairs case, and willingly breaking the laws of the country in which you live.
fraud, corruption, paying people off..... it doesnt seem to happen in england, ireland, germany...

why? because it wouldnt be accepted.

Posted by: patrick kerr | November 23, 2005 04:06 PM

**This was Sam writing:**
Italians abroad are considered the geniouses of art, design, food and the art of living in general so I do not feel "inferior" to anyone.


Italian politicians, what about them? They are simply more naive than politicians in other countries and they get cought,


I prefer going on being a typical Italian (abroad...) he he...

Posted by: Marco Vecoli | November 23, 2005 03:09 PM

Hi all,

Italians abroad are considered the geniouses of art, design, food and the art of living in general so I do not feel "inferior" to anyone. Sure the English speaking world has a laugh at the attempt we make to speak or write their language (99% of times rightly so!) and the latest gossip on Italy has nothing to do with politics, it is about the ban on round fishbowls... would you believe it?
Beppe, dear Beppe, the world wouldn't be the same without you!
Italian politicians, what about them? They are simply more naive than politicians in other countries and they get cought, Blair didn't have to resign after lying to the world!!! (he was being called Bliar for ages after that, class!!!). Doesn't mean we cannot try to make the world a better place by getting rid of the criminals, that's for sure!
Have a good day! Sam

Posted by: Samuela Saporiti | November 23, 2005 02:26 PM

franco, oh franco!
there is an italian version of this blog to write in italian!
this site is in english, which mean for english speaking people, to read and to write.
what if someonewho don't speak italian wants to read other people's opinions?
there are many people, like myself, that read much more than write, so let's stick to the rule for a change and don't be the usual italian.

Posted by: aldo grasso | November 23, 2005 12:49 PM

Why are banks in Italy so expensive?
Why does "free banking" not exist here like it does in Britain and Ireland? I thought the whole point of being part of the european union was to have a more open and competitive market for consumers as well.

Italian banks are a rip off.

Posted by: patrick kerr | November 23, 2005 10:18 AM

well done!!
it's a pity that no newspapers allowed their names to be published..
As soon as possible I will insert on my website the link to clean-up parliament .
This shame must be over!!!
Go on Grillo...go on!

Posted by: Enrico Melodia | November 23, 2005 10:13 AM

hello to all,
I think that something had to be done to show that we are not acquiescent to the status quo. This is a cry for help, directed not so much to foreign countries but to ourselves, the Italian people. This page in the IHT is saying: there are people in Italy that are unhappy with the current situation, and want to try changing things. It's a galvanizing instrument, something that can gather other people around it and maybe a movement will be born out of it. In the past, Italian attitude has mostly been of "sopportazione", bearing the cross of its politicians with resignation. Maybe this shows a change in the old defeatist attitude, maybe the blogs on the internet are giving people a place to voice dissent and people are bolder because we have places where we can see others' opinions, we are not as isolated as before.
Comments suggesting we wash our dirty laundry in private are a representation of the old school of thought, that which claims that form is more important than substance, that we prefer to look good (and complain) than to DO something and risk criticism if we fail. It's a cowardly attitude that will get us nowhere. And the accusation had to be published in a foreign paper if no one here would do it, don't you think?
Question to Grillo, I imagine that the reason why no paper would publish the list of names is because of liability, to prevent smearing lawsuits. Or do you see it as a refusal to cooperate? Keep up the good work but don't get too self involved... we need you !

Posted by: niki ghini | November 23, 2005 09:41 AM

Beppe you're the only one who can still give me an emotion...

I wish i was still abroad... i'd be proud to show anyone around me that in Italy you can pick extraordianry people...

Beppe's face and interent are letting us gather together...

Let's clean the face of the real italian people, the ones with the ideas

Not all the parassites that sorround us daily...

Keep going!

Posted by: Giuseppe De Sio | November 23, 2005 07:29 AM

Thank you very much for your initiative,
could you please offer the alternative to make contributions via internet? it would be much easier. thanks again

Posted by: paola casini | November 23, 2005 04:45 AM

Hey guys and Beppe, sometimes it's very useful to show the shit around, proving that we are not 56 millions sheeps and that we keep our eyes open. I always denounce the unbelievable wrongdoings of this government to anybody is showing interest or making critics to my country. It's my duty as an italian citizen living abroad, as well as promoting the italian culture and products. Foreigners have now a picture of Italy that coincides with the one of a south-american dictatorship, full of corruption and mafia, but still with a positive italian taste. It's our duty to show that not all italians are like that, that's why I appreciated so much the IHT initiative. It was just GREAT.
Go ahead, Beppe. We are with you.

Posted by: Pink Freud | November 23, 2005 02:09 AM

Dear Marco Abate,

I do not think that abroad people are any better.

US gave the permission to drill Alaska.
Australia plans to storage the nuclear residuals in the desert. They introduced work rules that are terrible.

In Italy, somebody has the guts to complain and show that we want to leave in a (real) modern country and not in a place that is virtually nice but fake in practice. Abroad they should do the same, without being ashamed of their believes.

Beppe has shown that somebody in Italy wants to change the country. And the world should know that.

I point out that abroad they think that italians are cheeky, that they do not follow the rules as the germans. This is a smash to these believes.

Posted by: Alvise Sommariva | November 23, 2005 01:54 AM

Sorry, "l'appetito vien mangiando" and I have something more to say. Do you want something to feel ashamed about? Here is.

Do you remember time ago, when one of our ministrer "showed the finger" against those people how were protesting outiside the Parliament?

I showed that picture (on la Repubblica) to a Spanish friend on mine. "In Spain", she said, "if one of our ministrer had behaved in that way, he would have asked for resignations".

Has our minister asked for that? It seems not.

And I felt ashemed, really ashemed.

Posted by: G. Lenzini | November 23, 2005 01:38 AM

Hi all,
I am one of the "escaped brain". Now I am leaving in the Netherlands.

I read the IHT every day, and you know .. I feel more proud than ashemed of finding something like the Clean Up Campaign on its pages.

And about the possible damages of exporting our dirty clothes abroad .. I think that our dirty clothes are well known in Europe; sometimes better known that they are in Italy (see, The Berlusconi's Shadows).

At least we can show that we are not the political sleeping people they think we are. Aren't we?

Yes, I feel proud of it. Good job, Beppe and friends, really a good job.


Posted by: Gabriele Lenzini | November 23, 2005 01:26 AM

Good job!!

Posted by: Angelo Bottone | November 22, 2005 11:43 PM

for marco abate!

have you check if your brain is shitched on?

p.s. you are right... no one else will do this... do you know why?... because only in italy there is such condition!

Posted by: orfeo smania | November 22, 2005 10:14 PM

Although I don't live abroad, I fully disagree with Marco Abate. I travelled a lot and only in countries where I could speak with people in their language; this way I had the way to understand how they look at us, Italians. I'm very happy that now, through the International Herald Tribune we demonstrate that some of us are not the tipical "brava gente" unable to be serious in something different from fashion or "haute cuisine". And if this page lets Mr. Abate to feel ashamed of Italy, this his his personal problem, not ours.

Posted by: Irene Faustinelli | November 22, 2005 09:47 PM

shut up MARCO. we are in italy now, and you don't know nothing if you use this words. You run against us. The italian situation is too dangerous, and we try all the way for defence, also asking help around the world. your words don't help us, but offend us,and they make to feel alone all Italians,i hope that you shut up and active your mind just now.

Posted by: PASQUALE BIZZARRO | November 22, 2005 09:19 PM

Guys: I believe that all the people writing here in English are Italians living abroad. At least I am one of, already 14 years around the world. Of course it's not honourable to show around our dirty laundry but... aren't we DESPERATE? Clearly, if we are trusting comedians (Beppe anyway you're great) to fight for the right cause. Think about our families and friends, seized in the Belpaese. Dont'you feel sorry? I am. Even though most of people in Italy envy us living abroad, I believe that there is no place like home. And I would like to go back, soon.
So I'm not honoured to see that page however it's an action we hope is going to have (at least slim) feedbacks at home. We try to demonstrate that not all 60 million of Italians are dis-honest and stick to typical stereotypes to be mafiosos, unreliable and superficial.

Posted by: Maurizio Dalondra | November 22, 2005 08:10 PM


washing clothes at home?
They've sold away the washing machine here in Italy and the information system is owned by the dirty lot.
The only way we're going to get a new washing machine is renting one from abroad.

You guys are missing the point:
It's umbeliavable for foreigners to see 23 condemned parliamentarians still sitting happily were they are without one newspaper or TV saying anything.

For Italians press this is "normal".... so they talk instead of the ending of a TV trasmission instead as top story.

Foreign countries: lend us your moral washing machine!!!

Posted by: Gino Benedetti | November 22, 2005 06:08 PM

This page is the most idiot thing I've ever seen in my life. In other "more serious" countries than Italy, you don't show dirty clothes abroad, you just wash them at home. It's really frustrating and humiliating for Italians living abroad, such as me, to see that somebody buys a foreign newspaper's page to show negative sides of his and mine country. In countries such as France, Germany or UK, people prefer to show the good sides and to amend the bad ones at home.
Did you think people will think you are smarter by doing that?
And you paid for it...Expensive self-humiliation: the real new frontier for a counrty's citizens' idiocy.

Posted by: marco abate | November 22, 2005 05:27 PM

I fully agree that Internet is the only way to circulate information out of lobbies control, I’m just a bit disappointed to see that I was right when I wrote to Mr. Grillo that this was not the way to spread the news.

If you check at the average number of comments posted in the Italian version you will easily note that it’s stagnating around a fixed number and no snow-ball effect has been generated which means that this new channel is acting just as the old one.


You’re missing the big picture!

Sincerely yours

Posted by: Giuseppe Russo | November 22, 2005 05:15 PM

Dear Rodolfo Casadei,
the problem is that your company (or where you work) can ask you a document tha certifys you never had problems with the justice.
Mr. Grillo and milions of italian people ask themselves why it is not applied for people (the politician) who represent us in Italy and in Europe.

Posted by: Giuseppe Castorina | November 22, 2005 05:10 PM

Only to comunicate You that I have insert Your link in hours blog.

Good work.

Posted by: Angelo P1 | November 22, 2005 03:42 PM

I think this Grillo's campaign is a great thing....not a fascist one...nobody tell you to vote for this or that just a denounce of the situation that is going on in Italy since....too long.
I'd like to say thank you to Beppe Grillo, and I hope that, these politicians have the "guts" to leave the italian parliment and give up all their benefit (that we pay)...I know is a dream but with Grillo's help and with the voice of the people it might be possible.....
Clean up the parliment!!!!!!!

Posted by: mario notari | November 22, 2005 03:36 PM

I confirm it is fascist. In the framework you devise, those who are in power will be able to defeat their opponents through the Courts instead that through the ballots. Judges who don't like some politicians will be able to disqualify them sentencing them instead of voting them out. It's really dangerous.

Posted by: Rodolfo Casadei | November 22, 2005 03:14 PM

As Maurizio Gasparri said just after election victory in 2001 to a journalist of The Economist:"I hope The Economist write in Italy all right."

Posted by: Mario Verri | November 22, 2005 03:12 PM

This initiative is coming from free people. Please don't use anymore fascist where is not applicabile. It is a moral campaign, we hope our people have still a moral and a coscience, somewhere.. sensible to crimes.

Posted by: Federico Remiti | November 22, 2005 02:04 PM

It's only a campaign to remember that the errors can be corrected! If we've chosen in the past some representatives that now are in judicial troubles, it's up to us (as a community) to denounce the situation.

What kind of fascism is in the fact that Beppe Grillo denounces an abnormal situation?
This campaign is maybe a little "speaked up", but absolutely NOT FASCIST. It's not a McCarty-kind-of-list... It's not that these guys will retire from the political scene after this ad on the Int'l Heral Tribune, but at least we have the right to know.
Thanks to Beppe Grillo!

Posted by: Franz Amigoni | November 22, 2005 01:57 PM

Your campaign to "clean" the Italian Parliament is a real fascist one. It is up to the people to choose their represe ntative, not to the police or the judges.
But you will collect a lot of signatures, since the tradition of Italian political life is civil strife, and you are one of that kind.

Posted by: Rodolfo Casadei | November 22, 2005 01:24 PM

The first!

Get up, clean up
clean the Parliament
Get up, clean up
we don´t wanna pay them!


Posted by: Mattia Sola | November 22, 2005 11:16 AM

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