Ferrara “Science in the open air”

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As for the Local Authorities in Ferrara when silencing research, they are second to none.
Manuela Zucchini, a local PRC politician, invited dottor Montanari to the Town Hall to explain that it would be pure simple folly to construct an incinerator. The door was then slammed shut in his face. I’ve thus decided to stay outside the door and to start an initiative that will be itinerant: “Science in the open air”.

Yesterday afternoon, Montanari spoke for 2 and a half hours to 300 people from Ferrara in front of the Town Hall and in the evening the square filled up with thousands of people to listen to Maurizio Pallante, an expert in energy policies and in environmental technology as well as myself. The mayor, Gaetano Sateriale and the local politicians barricaded themselves in to listen in silence inside the Town Hall a few meters away. At the end of the meeting, they left by a secondary exit leading into piazza Savonarola.

They feared the enthusiasm of the citizens. During the evening, 7,257.89 euro was collected for the environmental scanning electronic microscope. We’ve now reached 140,000 euro. We need to get 378,000 euro.

Next Sunday, June 4, we have organised a whole day called “A Saucerful of Secrets 2006”, from 9 in the morning until midnight.. It’s devoted to science, music and entertainment. It’ll be at the Canali di Reggio Emilia, near the agritourism establishment and the golf club called club La Razza. In the morning we will even have a golf competition. I’ll be there with the fantastic jazz and blues musicians Biagio Antonacci, Gino Paoli, Stefano Nosei, Vito (from Zelig), as well as the researchers Gatti and Montanari. You can find the programme at www.bortolanionlus.it.

To contribute to the electronic microscope, payments can be made to:
Current Account n. 513111
In the name of: "Associazione Carlo Bortolani Onlus"
Bank: Banca Etica (Sede centrale di Padova)
ABI: 05018
CAB: 12100
CIN: J
IBAN: IT45J0501812100000000513111
SWIFT: CCRTIT2T84A
or Pay Pal (www.paypal.it) indicating the following as the destination: onluscarlobortolani@reggionelweb.it


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Ma perchè non riesco a vedere il blog in italiano??? Ok mi sto connettendo dalla Gran Bretagna però uffa!
Ciao W il GHANA
Leonardo

Posted by: Leonardo Spano | June 12, 2006 09:42 AM


About Gatti and Montanari I have two major concerns: 1) their background; 2) The quality of their scientific work. About their background they have no clue of medicine or biological science so they cannot address the medical impact of incinerators. About relevance of their work it was not seminal at all in the field and to explain my point I encourage you to compare it with the work of different scientists such as Seaton A. and Donaldson K., which were recently invited by the most prestigious medical journal The Lancet to discuss the topic of nanoscience and nanotoxicology (Lancet. 2005 Mar 12-18;365(9463):923-4). For this reason I encourage you and Beppe Grillo to invite guys like these to open a discussion around incinerators medical impact.
Last but not the least the fact that Gatti was the expert in the "Commissione d'inchiesta del Senato" it doesn't impress me much, but confirm me as Italy is not a serious country not being able to select real expert people and also not smart enough to look for experts in other countries.

best regards,

Gianluca

Posted by: gianluca cestra | June 6, 2006 02:28 AM


Dr. Gatti is the Coordinator of the European Commission Project called "nano-pathology" (project QLRT-2002-147) with other University (Cambridge for example) and institutes.
Basically the assumption is that nano-particles have a pathological meaning for the human health. There is a statistical evidence (like, for long time, cancer - cigarettes) but we still don't know the mechanism behind that.
The word "nanopahology" has been invented by Dr. Gatti and she has studied the depleted uranium syndrome (both on Balkan and in Iraq).
She was the expert in the "Commissione d'inchiesta del Senato".
You can find the relation here:

http://www.senato.it/documenti/repository/commissioni/uranio/Stenografici/uranio-003d.pdf

We are still at the beginning but, in my opinion, you can't make a comparison between DiBella and Gatti.
Keep your idea is up to you but I can't see any valid reason for your scepticism.

Posted by: Tommaso Moro | June 1, 2006 06:44 PM


Reading titles of some other papers published by Gatti shown above I keep my original idea. These scientists didn't do any seminal work about medical impact of incinerators and are not the best scientists to discuss about it. Moreover the scientific relevance of the papers mentioned is again very questionable.
For all these reasons I keep thinking that open a discussion using this scientific background is superficial and not serious at all!!!

best,

Gianluca

Posted by: gianluca cestra | June 1, 2006 02:28 PM


I reckon you didn't look deeply enough. At the bottom you can find a partial list of Antonietta Moro Gatti's papers.

If you like, have a look to their web site:
http://www.biomat.unimo.it/eng/home.htm

you can get an idea about their activity.

By the way, strictly speaking she does not deal with "medicine" as you seem suggest. She is the coordinator of the Laboratory of Biomaterials at the Modena's University and she is a Physicist and Bioengineer who study biomaterial for medical use. On the other hand, I don't think nano-particles is a proper "medical" area and the other studies about that have been published on similar journals.


Gatti AM, Montanari S, Gambarelli A, Capitani F, Salvatori R.
Abstract In-vivo short- and long-term evaluation of the interaction material-blood.
J Mater Sci Mater Med. 2005 Dec;16(12):1213-9.
PMID: 16362224 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Gatti AM, Valdre G, Tombesi A.
Abstract Importance of microanalysis in understanding mechanism of transformation in active glassy biomaterials.
J Biomed Mater Res. 1996 Aug;31(4):475-80.
PMID: 8836843 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Gatti AM, Montanari S.
Abstract Retrieval analysis of clinical explanted vena cava filters.
J Biomed Mater Res B Appl Biomater. 2006 May;77(2):307-14.
PMID: 16292760 [PubMed - in process]

Lucarelli M, Gatti AM, Savarino G, Quattroni P, Martinelli L, Monari E, Boraschi D.
Abstract Innate defence functions of macrophages can be biased by nano-sized ceramic and metallic particles.
Eur Cytokine Netw. 2004 Oct-Dec;15(4):339-46.
PMID: 15627643 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Gatti AM, Montanari S, Monari E, Gambarelli A, Capitani F, Parisini B.
Abstract Detection of micro- and nano-sized biocompatible particles in the blood.
J Mater Sci Mater Med. 2004 Apr;15(4):469-72.
PMID: 15332619 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Peters K, Unger RE, Kirkpatrick CJ, Gatti AM, Monari E.
Abstract Effects of nano-scaled particles on endothelial cell function in vitro: studies on viability, proliferation and inflammation.
J Mater Sci Mater Med. 2004 Apr;15(4):321-5.
PMID: 15332593 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Gatti AM.
Abstract Biocompatibility of micro- and nano-particles in the colon. Part II.
Biomaterials. 2004 Feb;25(3):385-92.
PMID: 14585686 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Gatti AM, Ballestri M, Bagni A.
Abstract Granulomatosis associated to porcelain wear debris.
Am J Dent. 2002 Dec;15(6):369-72.
PMID: 12691272 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Gatti AM, Rivasi F.
Abstract Biocompatibility of micro- and nanoparticles. Part I: in liver and kidney.
Biomaterials. 2002 Jun;23(11):2381-7.
PMID: 12013186 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Ballestri M, Baraldi A, Gatti AM, Furci L, Bagni A, Loria P, Rapana RM, Carulli N, Albertazzi A.
Abstract Liver and kidney foreign bodies granulomatosis in a patient with malocclusion, bruxism, and worn dental prostheses.
Gastroenterology. 2001 Nov;121(5):1234-8. Erratum in: Gastroenterology 2001 Dec;121(6):1531.
PMID: 11677217 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Gatti AM, Valdre G, Tombesi A.
Abstract Importance of microanalysis in understanding mechanism of transformation in active glassy biomaterials.
J Biomed Mater Res. 1996 Aug;31(4):475-80.
PMID: 8836843 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Emanuelli G, Gatti AM, Cigada A, Brunella MF.
Abstract Physico-chemical observations on a failed Greenfield vena cava filter.
J Cardiovasc Surg (Torino). 1995 Apr;36(2):121-5.
PMID: 7790329 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Gatti AM, Valdre G, Andersson OH.
Abstract Analysis of the in vivo reactions of a bioactive glass in soft and hard tissue.
Biomaterials. 1994 Feb;15(3):208-12.
PMID: 8199294 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Cigada A, De Santis G, Gatti AM, Roos A, Zaffe D.
Abstract In vivo behavior of a high performance duplex stainless steel.
J Appl Biomater. 1993 Spring;4(1):39-46.
PMID: 10148344 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Posted by: Tommaso Moro | June 1, 2006 01:23 PM


Why in Italy we have to trust people with no demonstrated major scientific knowledge? Why only in Italy we trust people like Di Bella or Gatti and Montanari?
Running a simple PUBMED (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed), the most popular browser to search for scientific data, searching for data published by these two guys (it is sufficient type their last name and run the program) nothing relevant it was coming out but a couple of papers published on Journal of Materials Science, which is not a medical journal and has the very low impact factor of 0.9 (http://portal.isiknowledge.com/portal.cgi/portal.cgi?DestApp=JCR&Func=Frame&Init=Yes&SID=Z177F1Nmd31CK7DcbBe). The impact factor is the indicator of how relevant and significant is a scientific work. Very prestigious journal with very high visibility and credibility have an impact factor around 25-30 (thirty times more than 0.9).
For this reasons I suggest you to organize a meeting in Ferrara inviting international experts in the incinerator field instead to waste time and money following someone that never produced and published seminal data in the field.
Why is it so difficult to be serius in Italy?

Posted by: gianluca cestra | May 31, 2006 01:37 PM


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