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I’ll vote “No” in the referendum. Straight after that on this Blog, I will start a debate about the Constitution. It is evident that the parties cannot reform the Constitution because they are the ones who get the greatest benefit from the status quo.

The current Constitution has some values to be kept and others to be changed. But like everything else it gets worn out. Today it is a bit anti-historic and it is starting to smell. And as always, the fish starts to smell from the head. The head in this case are the professionals in politics whose cost and inefficiency are the true dead weight attached to the foot of Italy. Those who don’t want to change the Constitution (Centre Left) or who want to change it for the worse (Centre Right) haven’t been keeping us informed in these last few weeks. They have transformed the referendum into a little political theatre. If “yes” wins they will come to an agreement. If “no” wins they will come to an agreement. OK – but why are we voting at all?

Numbers on Italy:
- About 57 million inhabitants.
- Governments that have more than 100 people (ministers, vice ministers and undersecretaries).
- Parliament with 630 members of the Lower House, 315 members of the Upper House (senators) and 5 life senators.
- 20 regions (the Val d’Aosta with 121,000 inhabitants – equivalent to a quarter of Naples – given equal status to Lombardy with 9,000,000 inhabitants, corresponding to the regions of Friuli, Umbria, Marche, Abruzzo, Molise, Basilicata, Calabria and Sardinia all together) all with the same legislative competences and the same administrative powers.
- 8,102 comuni (villages, towns or cities) most of which are tiny or very tiny (Monterone – Lecco – 33 inhabitants that elect a mayor and a local council every 5 years just like the 2,500,000 inhabitants of Rome).
- 300,000 professionals of politics, going up to 700,000 with “amateur administrators” of the provinces, mountain communities, ASL, IACP, Autorità di Bacino, Consorzi, Mixed Companies and Regional Commissariati costing 15,000,000,000 Euro a year.
- The current spending handled by the regions, provinces, mountain communities adds up to 15% of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP).

Neither the devolution of the left nor of the right have thought to reorganise this parasite-like structure.
It would be possible to go ahead with a few measures that all those Italians who are not maintained by the State and are not part of the political class (thus very few) would agree on:

- Drastic and immediate reduction in the number of parliamentarians.
- Elimination of the provinces and the mountain communities.
- Setting up 3 macro regions of about 19,000,000 inhabitants each (a few more than Tokyo or San Paolo).
- Governments with no more than 12 ministers given that State competences are transferred to the regions.
- Grouping of the 8,000 comuni into 100.
- Suppression of privileges, salaries, golden pensions and of consultancies.

We are a country that has been mummified by the State machinery and without the certainty of rights. The Constitution is partly the cause of this obscene result. It should be changed. But changed for the better.

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Sara, your English doesn't sound that good either - or your logic cogent...

Posted by: Gino Vicolo | June 25, 2006 02:09 PM

Dirk Donovan, honey... please: take care of your english a bit. It just doesn't make sense. At all. It's an english blog, not a basic language course.
And then...just respect the theme. C-o-n-s-t-i-t-u-t-i-o-n....Did you learn the word at school, or (less probably) at home? Stick to the topic, please. It is that to difficult? Probably yes: it is just because of you, your rocking little bald head-friend (what's a white head,by the way?), and ur 9 million (why 9 million?!)hairheaded buddies who mix everything and nothing - war against terror with referendum, with bush, berlusconi, and many more in a nice orgy of ignorance and overiterated connections - that we reduced ourselves to the hilarious, petty, doggy-country tha we are nowadays, after 5 years of total smoky and extremely dangerous political emptiness.
....Beppe, are you really letting such messages pass? ....Almost unbelievable


Posted by: Sara | June 25, 2006 12:46 AM

I will vote NO.
I could agree with beppe when he says, we have too many members of Parliament, and that it cost a lot of money.
But, attention: reducing the member of parliament is needed but not enough, even if it's very popular and populist.
If we want REALLY reduce waste in the political administration we must first eliminate the bureaucracy and the clientelism. I'm working in the public administration, and I know very well hoa much money are wasted because of thousand of unnecessary process, and about all because of clientelism and corruption.

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | June 24, 2006 08:47 PM

Beppe are we talking about heaven or real life? Of course we should split the country into three large communities, Gianfranco Miglio talked about that a long time ago and Bossi called him scorreggia nello spazio (fart in stratosphere). Right now all we must do is vote yes at the referendum and pass a reform that will make the existing disasterous plethora of public administrators somewhat accountable, at least. If you have to pay the bills you will think twice before you splurge on public money. As an old italiot saying goes "il meglio è nemico del bene" (better is well's foe). North Italians have been slaves of the central government for way too long. Either we split peacefully or we secede. In either case, and in the long term, we'll definitely have to cut down drastically on public administrators and offer them jobs in a coal mine.

Posted by: gino vicolo | June 24, 2006 06:47 PM

Maureen, Thank you for your advice but I'm already decided to use my week end somehere else:-)
Maybe one day, all together, our politicians will decide to do something like Doris is asking so my NO is not important now. Doris, I think that we have to change the unions it will be not to have more strikes. What do you want, railroads in strike every week instead of every month?

Posted by: blisco jajo | June 24, 2006 06:30 PM

I agree that the Italian Constitution should be changed but not in the sense Mr. Berlusconi and the rest of the patlamentarians would like to change. Their should be a absolutely INDIPENDENT COMMITEE to think about possible changes and - from my point of few - the MOST IMPORTANT CHANGE the Italians need is: NO GANGSTERS IN POLITICS! Politicians should be an example for the people and if tehy are rotten - how should we simple citizens be??? Making this law, I think we would have at least half of our parlamarians at home! But - they should prepare their bags and not have the privileges of lifetime pay - maybe then they would know what it means to live of one salary!
Here in Germany you can't be elected if your "casella giudiziaria" isn't CLEAN - and if you do some stupid joke (and it comes out - also German politicians aren't angels)- you resign. That would be a real change.
For me - having lived in Italy for many years - it also is disgusting that employees with wife and children get the same salary as emplowyees/workers with nobody on charge! How can a family of five or six members live with a one person salary? We should introduce the five different tax-classes for employees, where the number of persons depending on the salary is considered and taxed in consequence.
We should also have Unions (sindacati) who pay the salary to strikers for the first 30 days (as in Germany) and thus give back a little of the money they take out of any paycheque! What do we pay for - for the salaries of the sindicate leaders or for out interests??

Posted by: Doris Geck-Veronesi | June 24, 2006 04:16 PM

dirk dick donovan you are a complete idiot not beppe stop

Posted by: mistikal | June 24, 2006 01:52 PM

Grillo the most idiot white head we ever sean on internet. Enemy aganist Bush and USA but with a great smiles when he's talking about terrorists.

Grillo SUX Berlusconi ROX !!!!

ah i forgive : i and other 9 milion people just
VOTE Y E S !!!!!

Posted by: dirk donovan | June 23, 2006 11:17 PM

Dear Blisco please go and vote no because if you don't go it's one vote less. There is a really clear summary of the issues at stake in the Unità today which only takes about 10 minutes to read....

Posted by: Maureen Lister | June 23, 2006 03:32 PM

I've been on the Gov. site to have a look about what people have to vote. Frankly, after 10 minutes I run away. Impossible to have a clear idea about the changement they want to do. It's like somebody who ask you to have a yes without asking a question.So, I say no without going to vote:-)

Posted by: blisco | June 23, 2006 02:50 PM

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