The pardon according to Fassino

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A young woman called Sabrina asked Piero Fassino to explain the pardon and he promptly replied.
I’m publishing Fassino’s letter here so that he can get encouragement, suggestions and even objections and I’m sure he will treasure these. Those who want to correspond directly with the Secretary of the DS can send him an email to p.fassino@dsonline.it

“I am pleased to respond to the email you sent me about the pardon.
Today to live in prison is to live in hell. The inhumanity of prison is relevant to the whole of society. It’s relevant to us. Because it denies the re-education mission that is assigned to detention by the Constitution. Because the level of civilisation of a society is even measured by its prison system.
No one of us “on the outside” can be disinterested about living “inside” about the actual conditions and the prospects for reintegration.
In five years, the Centre Right did nothing for prisons. On the contrary, it made laws that have already produced a useless and damaging multiplication of the prison population. Consider the ex-Cirielli, the laws on drug dependency, the Bossi-Fini. On 31 December 2005, the number of prisoners was 59,523 in a prison system that was created to house 35,000. In 2001 there were 43,000.
From the time the Bossi-Fini law came into effect, foreign prisoners have become 45% of the total. This is a figure that has never been reached before. Another significant fact relating to the entrants to prison is the contravention of laws relating to illegal substances: in 2005 there were 15,917 Italians who entered prison and 10,144 foreigners.
A clemency measure was no longer to be put off when it is considered that the least one was 16 years ago.
The Constitution requires for a law of this type that two thirds of the members of both Houses of Parliament are in favour. This is an ample majority that can be brought about only with an understanding between a great number of political groups and with the search for a point of equilibrium.
Thus we have worked on a text that is balanced and fair. In relation to pardons of the past, it includes the longest list of offences that are excluded from the application of the pardon: subversive association; all the crimes connected to terrorism; devastation, pillage and slaughter; kidnapping of a person with the intention to turn things upside down; armed band; association to commit a crime with the intention to commit crimes outlined in articles 600, 601 and 602 of the penal code; mafia-type association; reducing or keeping someone in slavery or in servitude; under-age pornography or prostitution; people trafficking; all forms of sexual violence; corruption of people under age; seizing a person with the intention to kidnap or bribe; recycling money or goods resulting from the kidnapping of a person for profit; production, trafficking and illegal detention of narcotic substances according to article 73 of the unified text of the law relating to the discipline of narcotic and psychotropic substances.
Not just that, but for all the crimes to which the pardon applies, there is no throwing in the sponge.
For financial crimes, for crimes of corruption and against the public administration, trials continue. There is no change to the responsibilities and the judgements. The crimes are not cancelled and above all the perpetual interdiction to hold public office stays. The additional penalties remain, even the temporary ones. As regards accidents at work and the white deaths {deaths resulting from accidents at work}, the rights of the victims to compensation remain in place. We would have been the first to say no to an amnesty that cancelled the crime. This is not the case.
Thus we said yes to the pardon, not so as to favour anyone, but because it was a necessary response, necessary and no longer to be put off because of the prison emergency.
Now it’s necessary to start a whole series of reforms to restore efficiency to the administration of justice and to cancel the really bad laws – shame inherited from the Centre Right, starting with the Cirami and the ex-Cirielli. And that is what we will do. Thank you for your attention.”
Piero Fassino

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Exactly Eva, as I said in my post, I DO NOT wish italian prisons to become torture centers like those in UAE or Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: Christian Ekipaser | August 21, 2006 05:09 PM


Cristian,what about the one that en up in jail and are innocence?I read an article about a filippino woman that went to work,in Saudi Arabia,as a cleaner,and her hands were chop off ,because accused of stealing,when she did not do anything?(read on Marie Claire magazine)

Posted by: evakulnura | August 16, 2006 01:57 AM


The reply of “bread-stick” Fassino does not have rhymes nor reasons. It is a pathetic piece of paper that is trying to justify this infamous act of pardon with a very poor execution (blaming the center-right government for the rising number of criminals, it’s like blaming the church if people are swearing) and done against the will of the majority of the Italian citizens (we can easily assume that from the tons of comments around the web). I agree with Mr Travaglio when he declares Fassino’s point of view full of flaws. I just want to bring my own experience when I lived in UAE for a while. The UAE is one of the top safest places on hearth. While walking around cities such as Dubai and Abu Dhabi, I’ve noticed that Jewelleries, Pawn Brokers and Gold Shops did not have CSS TV’s and most of the doors were left opened. Why was that possible ? Cause willing to be criminals were scared of prison, I was told. THAT’S THE TRICK ! ‘course I do not wish Italian Prisons to become like those in UAE which methods are purely torture like severing fingers for thieves. Not to mention, death penalty for serious crimes such as kidnapping or drug dealing.
You can maintain Law and Order and reduce prisoners by 2 means: making people SCARED of going to prison and by introducing Death Penalty.
Terrorists, serial killers, rapists, drug traffickers can all go to hell by a simple injection. No pain and no more money from the taxpayers who maintain this human scum. Thus, vacancies are created for “new entries”.
“Bread Stick”, what you and your stupid colleagues have done is to INCITE criminals and wiped out the job of prosecutors and magistrates who spent months if not years of trials to convict those criminals.
The Land of corruption, scandals and smart people in the top Italian lobbies who make enormous profits using the bottom of the citizens will never change.

Posted by: Christian Ekipaser | August 15, 2006 03:28 PM


I have no difficult to believe it, Prince!;-)))))
Tey are like the ones hier in Italy with stickers representing the Pope!

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 13, 2006 06:30 PM


This is the guy who some months ago, we heard to say that the priority it was not to make a law against the Berlusconi case but to think about the employment and so on. I wonder...Is this guy talking today about what he will talk tomorrow?

Posted by: blisco jaio | August 13, 2006 11:29 AM


The sticker that resembles the christian fish.
The people who has it on their cars drive like retardos.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 13, 2006 06:51 AM


Fish? Which fish?

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 13, 2006 02:53 AM


Those with the Bush-Cheney stickers on their cars are the worse ones (like the ones with the fish)

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 12, 2006 04:31 PM


Prince, by the way, I don't want to defend the criminals, there are a lot of them who are in jail because they deserved it, but also a lot of poor devils. I'm only against every generalization and simplification as I read on the italian side of the blog.
I don't want that my indignation about the indulto-inciucio would be confused with the justicialism from law&order people ( those people like them with stuffed moose-head over the couch, tartan shirt and G.W.Bush- sticky-on label on they car);-) .

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 12, 2006 02:10 AM


I repeat my opinion: The real reasons for this indulto-inciucio was not the prisons overcrowding problem, but a compromise with Berlusconi & Co. to practically decriminalize the financial and corruption crimes. That's disgusting.

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 12, 2006 01:38 AM


Go, Prince, Go!!! I like the idea of "a bunch of good kids" but it stops there with kids, the ones who go to kindergarten and primary school.

The prison overcrowding problems exist practically everywhere. What happens in other countries is to take the "lesser" criminals/offenders out into the community and make them work. Under supervision a lot of people have found true rehabilitation with the possibility of getting employed and having their petty crimes written off the book after a 5 year period.

You cannot do this with the degenerate criminals and the masterminds whose scope is simply that of scraping whatever they can at the cost of others. That is why I still believe that the new Indulto law was simply a way of scratching the back of some politicians in order to get something back in return... you know, one turn deserves another.

Nothing serious has been undertaken by ANY government in 60 years to bring about a true change to the way jail terms can really work to the benefit of society and the offenders themselves. Had I the power to do it, some of the indulto-freed schizos who found themselves once more "on the road"... I would have taken that damn cell key and threw it away, far from pardoning the bastards... [sorry, I am getting worked up at all this injustice, I think I am going to puke!]

And one further comment... with all the blah blah about xenophobia, racism and discrimination, I am sure nothing has changed in the mentality of many... chances are that, the way things are going, we might be living the Dark Ages once more.

Posted by: Joselle Camilleri | August 12, 2006 01:06 AM


I'm talking about thieves, murderers, rapists, mobsters and drug dealers.
Don't tell me that they are only 50% of this population because I don't believe it.
20 years ago there was the same problem and those laws were not existing.
Are you telling me that the Italians are just a bunch of good kids that are changing the laws because of racism and discrimination?

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 11, 2006 07:01 PM


But the most part of the prisons population is composed of this poor bastards. They remain in jail only a few months, but the turn over is very high, for this reason are prisons always overcrowded, the ones are going, the other are coming and so on...

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 11, 2006 05:20 PM


I'm talking about people with real rap sheets. I don't even consider those poor bastards arrested because of public ranting of mindless political figures.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 11, 2006 01:47 PM


Prince, do you know how is composed the prison's population?
The most of them are immigrants without residence permit who didn't commit any crime, (thanks the Bossi-Fini law), or drugs addicts and little drugs dealers .
I think the real solution to resolve the problem of prison overcrowding would be the abrogation of Bossi-Fini law and other iniquitous laws issued by Berlusconi & Co.

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 11, 2006 02:28 AM


Pardon because of prison overcrowding?
There is a solution: in Arizona, the sheriff Joe Arpaio opened a tent village populated by prisoners that are condemned to forced labor. When interviewed, he said that the desert is big and all what he has to do is to add tents and make the prisoners work.
When the journalist objected about the way he treated those people he said that he did not coerced them into getting there, they opened their way by infringing the law.
This guy is always getting re-elected because with this solution, criminality declined and the citizens of Maricopa County (where Joe works) are feeling more secure.
In Italy we have those criminals that are overcrowding the prisons which are doing shit in their cells, misusing taxpayer's money.
A good solution would be to use them for road maintenance and for cleaning those landscapes which are being left to rot because there is no money.
The money is spent elsewhere (the prison system) and needs only to be invested properly.
The rest of the world is always thinking how to get the best out of their investments and for this we have jobs that are going overseas and factories being dismantled: if our chances of employment are fading away, why we have to keep those criminals there without letting them produce something that would be good for the community?
Probably they would be happy as well because they would find something to do and maybe learn that they don't need to be bad to get their bread.
Of course somebody else in the prison community would not be happy to work: for those there would be a bigger ball and a shittier job to perform and maybe us watching them suffer, just a little bit, for all the pains that they caused to their victims.
If this project would take off, the prison population would be reduced also because ther would be day and night shifts that would cut the population in half.

Wouldn't that be nice?

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 10, 2006 10:15 PM


Fassino and all the political gang in Italy, right, left, center, midright wing etc etc...other than talking do you have any other skills that could be useful to our society? All of you are in a postion to change in better this country but instead keep playing this absurd power game!Do you all never think at your children, your family and dream a better place to live...I guess not....

Posted by: Carlo Biondolillo | August 10, 2006 03:37 PM


I wrote so much on the italian blog about this thema, that I'm already disgusted with it!
I'm against this pardon, because of the inclusion of financial, corruption crimes, and against the public administration, and I find Fassino's justifications very pathetic.
I'm sure that this "inciucio" is the result of a sordid compromise with Berlusconi un Forza Italia.
But I don't agree with the many political cynic voices, who are infesting the blog, always ready to take advantage of this situation to spit venom against immigrants or to invoke Law & Order, God, Fatherland & Family.

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 10, 2006 01:01 PM


Poor poor prisoners, so badly treated by the system that they need to be taken in delicately and treated with kid leather gloves, massaged all over for having been kicked insolently on the butt by the judicial system.

Poor poor guys who, once free, flit happily here and there to repay us the harm they have been inflicted by generating a new series of crimes.

Fassino, are you trying to kid us? Are you trying to blindfold us with some kind of nylon netting? People ARE NOT fools. This answer of yours tantamounts to one thing only - criminals in an already heavily criminalised country are simply being given a nulla osta to do as the frigging hell they want.

How trustworthy of you, isn't it?

Posted by: Joselle Camilleri | August 10, 2006 11:50 AM


We are going to start to apologize with burglars and bandits that we have no money enough to give to them for their education. I need to be reeducated!

Posted by: blisco Jaio | August 10, 2006 11:39 AM


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