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Today people go to the cemeteries with bunches of flowers for their dead relatives. My folks often come to visit me. They come into my dreams and keep me company and then they leave in the morning.
Italy has had thousands of people killed by the mafias, and not occasionally with the collusion of the State. These dead people have a merit mark. They have kept a flame of dignity, of self esteem for Italians.
To know that some have not given in to organized crime, with political collusion in the poll position. That they have not bowed down.
They have been shot at, blown to pieces, verbally attacked. Their witness make us feel less mean. The State, perhaps, will not die because of them. Impastato, Ambrosoli, Dalla Chiesa, Falcone, Borsellino... The list is really long. This is a slaughter that has been going on for decades. Almost always they are the best. In Washington, on a great black slab there are the names of those who fell in Vietnam.
In Rome we should do the same thing for those who died at the hands of the mafia. A monument with thousands of names in front of Parliament. There would still be, it’s true, the problem of managing it. Each day new names would have to be added. It’s a war without end dates.
In the Lebanon, our soldiers are playing cards with the Hezbollah and our South is without law and order. It’s time for 2007 calendars. I’m preparing one that can be downloaded from this site.
Instead of Saints of the Church there will be the Saints of Italy on the day when they died. 23 May Saint Falcone, 29 July Saint Rocco Chinnici exploded...

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Enrico,Obviously my knowledge of a Federational system is limited...
Luckyly you understood what I meant..:o)
Religion is very important to both Palestinians and Israelis, so as you righty said : What a mess!!

Posted by: paola filinesi | November 8, 2006 04:06 PM


Paola: in Canada we are a Federation of ten Provinces and three Territories. We have two official languages and a constellation of other languages. Religion does not come into the equation as there are just too many religions to worry about them.
I agree that if Koranic law is applied, the idea of a Palestinian Federation goes out of the window. What a mess!

Posted by: Enrico Rossi | November 8, 2006 02:00 AM


I agree Enrico,
But I am afraid that this might prove very difficult to do not disregarding the fact that the Federation idea is not so familiriar to the Arab mentality.

Today's Federal Countries have mostly the same language (or at least one or two official languages) and most importantly same religion.
In the case of Palestinians and Israelis in reality we are talking about a religious war...!!

This will be very difficult to settle and it becomes even more difficult with outside interference, when those interfering have only financial interests in the area and know nothing about the importance of religion to the parts concerned.

Posted by: paola filinesi | November 7, 2006 10:31 PM


Paola: it's obvious that realpolitik suggests a practical search for a solution to a problem that goes back a long time. In my opinion Palestine will only know peace when a Federation of equals will be established on this land. No two State solution will ever be viable. This implies the dismantling of the present Jewish State and the creation of a Federal State that will incorporate few Provinces. Only this approach will guarantee mutual respect and human dignity.

Posted by: Enrico Rossi | November 7, 2006 04:44 PM


Enrico,
The fact is that NOW both Israelis and Palestinians HAVE TO live in that area.
So the case is not whether there were mistakes made in the past but for a FAIR SOLUTION to be found to the problem, based on mutual respect and
HUMAN DIGNITY.
Palestinians are entitled to a free country and Israelis are entitled to live in peace;
Everything else happening in that area is a result of outside interference aiming at financial/economical benefits to those so called
"International Peace Keepers"....

As long as the Palestinian people are mistreated and not given what is rightly theirs,there will not be peace in that area ,and if you ask me...there should't be...

And obviously that brings us back to Beppe's original post:
What the "heck..." are Italian solders doing there???

Posted by: paola filinesi | November 6, 2006 10:20 AM


Paola, I have to correct that Balfour was British Foreign Secretary, at the time of the Balfour Declaration.

Posted by: Enrico Rossi | November 5, 2006 04:35 PM


Paola, it's good to know that there are still people like you who think without blinkers. If you have time, read the many promises that the Zionists made to Premier Balfour of England to convince him to grant them a foothold in Palestine. Not one of those promises were kept. They were all lies. What a tragic farce!

Posted by: Enrico Rossi | November 5, 2006 04:24 PM


That's true Enrico,
Israel's political and military actions have all the support in the world, where as the Palestinian cause gets minimal attention and only when things get really rough...:o(
When I say I can understand Marcia's anger it's
through a few things I have an experience with, which are:
First I have lived in Egypt for many years as a child (that's how I speak Egyptian),
I have worked for many years for a Palestinian owned bank
and I now live in Greece whose people are very pro-Palestinian.

The only fault I find with her posts it's that she misses out sometimes Beppe Grillo's irony...

As for the book, thank you for recommending it!!!

Posted by: paola filinesi | November 5, 2006 09:30 AM


I think Marcia has become depressed and antagonistic over the violence we are witnessing in so many Countries. I just finished reading “Perche’ ci odiano” written by Paolo Barnard (Rizzoli BUR) and recommend it to all of you who want to read about the fake war against terrorism. The book has been effectively banned from any publicity in the Italian Media because of its strong criticism of the State of Israel (criticism from Jewish sources!) and of the West. Even L’Unita’ doesn’t dare mention it. The Author writes that it’s very important that we care about this issue because our lives may truly depend on it. Peter Ustinov said it best: “Terrorism is the war of the poor and war is the terrorism of the rich.”

Posted by: Enrico Rossi | November 5, 2006 05:05 AM


Exactly so Eva,
Marcia is not accustomed to Italian ironic humor...
Although, most of the times, her statements are correct, her anger is so overwhelming that there is no way of having a reasonable exchange of ideas...:o(

Posted by: paola filinesi | November 4, 2006 10:37 AM


....and Beppe you,need a wall bigger of the "Wall of China" to put all the names of the mafia victims,

Posted by: evakulnura | November 3, 2006 10:57 PM


Marcia,is good to know the other side of the story,it seems we hear from you only when you like to put the record straight,and we do need all side of the story,I wonder if beppe is istrael propaganda isn't yours propaganda as well? and have you notice that he doesn't like the italian army in Libanon as well as you,aren't you both saying the same thing?

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Posted by: CJ | November 3, 2006 02:51 PM



Italy itself is the monument.

It is just not clear whether it is the monument to mafia, or to the victims...

Posted by: Salvatore Riina | November 3, 2006 01:57 AM


In the Lebanon, our soldiers are playing cards with the Hezbollah – really?

Now let me guess where you got this information from.

From the Israeli violating the Lebanese airspace on daily bases and no one says anything.

If you wish to spread non-factual Israeli neo-cohen propaganda you are welcome after all it is your site but I suggest you learn up on Hezbollah. Card playing can in no way be associated with Hezbollah.

The last time an idiot said “Italians are in Irak on peace mission …… they had a fat assed ugly foul mouthed obnoxious Italian by the name of Barbara Con something or the other claiming to be a governor of Nassiriya! As if some Mafioso Italiana woman could be a governor of a foreign state rich in oil & petroleum resources and Italian soldiers were firing on crowds of women & children; the brothers and sisters of Lebanese Shia in Nassiriya with Pink Floyd noises and you say that they are playing cards!

Your racists ignorance is astounding. The lebanese have only contempt for invading forces like everyone else even if they come packaged with sunglassed worn in the night darkness by some force called Italians

Barbara Con something or other is now in Darfur - that place that Italian MPs think means Italian way of life and cuisine; creating another disaster. No doubt Italia of valore will give her another medal for slaughter of Muslims.

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Posted by: Davide Pierce | November 2, 2006 04:54 PM


Yes Yes Yes Yes! A monument to the dead caused by the mafia. Ect. A good idea. But we don't need the italian state to start this. Perhaps an iternet site with NAMES could be a start!

Posted by: john Santilli | November 2, 2006 12:09 PM


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