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At the last elections there was a strange smell in the air. The election results at midday gave the Unione a 5 point lead and then minute by minute it started to disappear.
Always in favour of the “Prison House of Liberty”. If counting had continued for another half hour, Prodi would have been a cyclist living on a pension.
Strange things happened that night. Pisanu summoned urgently by the psiconano. Prodi proclaimed the victory of the Unione as fast as he could.
Deaglio has produced a video: 'Uccidete la democrazia' {kill democracy} about which I have received many letters. I’m publishing two of them. One is from Aldo di Albenga and the other from Stefano Benni.

Dear Beppe,
Yesterday I watched Lucia Annunziata’s RAI 3 programme in which Enrico Deaglio put forward the unsettling idea about what was happening during the last political elections. Briefly, the blank ballot papers that normally are seen in different provinces at 4% or 11% got miraculously reduced in all the national territory to percentages between 1% and 2%.
This tiny million of non-votes is thought to have been transformed, through the agency of someone at the Viminale and a fivethousandlire software package into the same number of votes for a randomly chosen party in the CdL.
Even now there has not yet been a recount of these ballot papers. When Annunziata asked why the Centre Left had not denounced this fact, Deaglio (naïve???) responded: that they would have said: “We have won anyway”
But if they have to take refuge in a “fiducia” every minute because an almost invisible majority in the Senate, 1,200,000 votes less to the CdL would have a massively different distribution of the seats!
PERHAPS I must think about secret agreements that would shock the network of secret services and the P2, and that 99% of what is reported to us daily is just the usual theatricals of appearances? I thought to myself (naïve!!!)
“Tomorrow there’ll be an explosion in the newspapers and perhaps even in the whole country”. This morning the Corriere della Sera gave a few lines in the general news not about the transformation of the million votes but about protests from various bodies to the top brass in the RAI about the excessive time allocated to Deaglio.
La Stampa didn’t even give the news item. They are stealing our democracy from the base. From the vote. And no one is doing anything to stop it. Not those who are governing, not those who should be watching out, not those who should be keeping us informed, not those who should be carrying out investigations, not us Italians, because anyway we are world champions.”
Aldo – Albenga

“I have seen Deaglio’s video on the last elections. I found it to be well documented, precise and interesting. It puts forward the hypothesis that there was an election fraud of more than a million votes in favour of Berlusconi and the Casa della Libertà. To me it seems that this necessitates at least a parliamentary investigation.
Or at least the interest of the magistracy, the media, the party secretaries. It seems that that would be honest in relation to the voters of the Left and of the Right.
The silence of the Right does not surprise me. That of the Left does. For the Italian political class an attack on democracy of this seriousness is of little account.
But a citizen in Italy would like to know if a vote in Italy still has meaning, or if we are voting for a joke. Many times there has been darkness about episodes of Italian public life. If this darkness remains in place, perhaps it’s best to cancel out from the Constitution the wording 'democratic republic founded on work'.
Let’s say 'repubblica mediocratica fondata sul patteggiamento e il silenzio' {mediocre republic founded on making pacts and silence}. Perhaps even the vote is too dangerous for this country. At least let them say it, then we’ll know how to behave…”
Stefano Benni, il lupo

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Can anyone explain to me why Italian statutes of limitation in criminal cases keep running even after the trial begins.
In the United States they stop running once the case has been filed. Doesn't this provide a strong incentive for defendants to delay cases ?
Do all statutes of limitation in Italy operate this way ?

Posted by: Michael Polelle | April 13, 2008 10:23 PM

Hello there, once a while I would like to read on any newspaper regardless from which nation that Italy and more important our Politician have done something right and we are at the top in something. Instead each and every day it’s the same old story Italy and their institutions are legging in whatever category the poll is about, is this just my perception or someone sees it the same way or the opposite for that matter. Take any subject and We (As Italians) constantly trail either Europe if it’s about European Country or the world if it’s a worldwide poll. Example are plenty and in all the fields from Banking, Transportation, Corruption, Bureaucracy, Justice, Airlines, Deregulations, Monopolies, Economy, Education and the list is endless. Folks I am not sure but this is a slippery slope that this Country has embarked for too long of a time, and right now we are living out of memory of what this Country use to be because was/is not capable of Manage itself or to produce a Government competent and honest in half to put together Policies for the well being of the Country and his Citizen. Just lately in the world poll for Corruption Italy has decline five (5 below Botswana, it’s now in 45ft position out of 165 Countries and last for the western country) Italy in Europe has the last position for Education Economic Growth (For the last 12 years) has the worst freeway system in Europe (And we pay dearly for it while most of Europe is free as in freeway, thanks to Autostrade and Company) had 56 Government in 58 years while our Representatives in Brussels have the highest Paycheck in the whole Europe. We as a Country have the highest national debit (108.4% of the National Product which from Wikipedia is approx. 1,66 Trillions, eight (8th) out of the Great 7). Now I don’t mean to burst anybody’s bubble ma we are a third world Country and our representatives politically and Financial are the laughing stock of the world. We have been living on our old glory for way to long while in the 21st Century we struggle to remain in the European Community (Founding Member) not to say in the Euro Zone as well. Maybe I am missing something and is reflected in the Political seen, these buffoons do not see any urgency what so ever, we fight the mafia since the beginning of time and they still are in control of entire regions, Naples is a basket case everybody is just ignoring, Rome is a city that runs on government money that if without for a day it would collapse, while the health system is based on Lombardy where patients come from all over this Country because in their region nothing work and anyone could literally die because of blatant negligence. Folks is this the Italy you see or am I way of track, please give a reason to believe in this Leaders of ours, I desperately need some positive reinforcement. While Italy was and still is on this inexorable slippery slope our Political Class is discussing about making new parties like PPE, Partito Demeocratico, Partito di Centro etc, this are the samo folks that got this Country were we are today. While taxes are going up to 42.5% from 40.2% number of political parties stand at 26 today (more to come) unemployment at 8% circa and one more bad rating on Italian Bond and we will be kicked out from ECB. Do this Politician get the message, and that they should stop going to all this television programs and bickering amongst themselves for who got us were we are, they all did and still doing it while their incompetence is running rampant. I don’t give a hoot if they can’t shear a bathroom in the senate and I don’t give a hoot if the Getty doesn’t return arts they bought with their money I want them to find out who is responsible for this. Is this what our Politicians are telling us or what?
Thanks for the opportunity

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | November 25, 2006 01:08 PM

Joe,I am going to see Moretti movie,here in Australia the movie critic gave their thump up,means it is a good movie,and you might be surprise that the Italians overseas will watch it and love it too,ciao

Posted by: eva kulnura | November 24, 2006 07:03 AM

We are talking about something has been written by a witness who has writtne a book on it, don't forget it

Posted by: francesco filippi | November 23, 2006 10:59 PM

Se il signor Deaglio aveva delle prove DOVEVA innazittutto denunciare in sede penale i presunti colpevoli e non farci un film (orribile e che non guardera' nessuno come il Caimano di Giro-Tondo Moretti).

Posted by: joe cool | November 23, 2006 06:28 PM

Berlusconi’s legal drama is destined to end in anti-climax
By Tony Barber in Rome and Adrian Michaels in Milan
Published: November 22 2006 17:10 | Last updated: November 22 2006 17:10 So slowly do the wheels of justice move in Italy that even the prosecutors pursuing Silvio Berlusconi, the former prime minister who went on trial this week for alleged fraud, concede that a definitive conviction is unlikely. If found guilty in the court of first instance, Mr. Berlusconi and his fellow defendants – who include David Mills, the estranged husband of Britain’s culture minister – would launch long appeals, prompting the application of a statute of limitations in 2008 and guaranteeing their right to walk free. The Milan trial therefore seems destined to be another high-profile Italian legal drama that grinds to its predictable anti-climax in the fifth act. Mr. Berlusconi and Mr Mills scorn the idea that they have broken the law and, as is their right, neither man showed up in court on Tuesday, the trial’s first day. The charges against the former premier relate to the purchase of television rights for US films in the 1990s by Mediaset, Mr Berlusconi’s business empire. On Wednesday a Milan tribunal refused to disqualify Edoardo D’Avossa, a judge, from hearing the case. Defense lawyers had asked Mr D’Avossa to step down because he had tried other cases involving Mediaset; the judge himself had accepted there was a potential conflict of interest. Mr Mills and other legal experts say such financial trials can last five years or more – easily long enough for the statute of limitations to kick in. More broadly, the judicial system is so inefficient that 81 per cent of reported crimes go unpunished, according to a 2005 estimate by the Supreme Court. Court officials said it took eight years on average to complete a civil trial in Italy and five years for a criminal trial. One explanation is the length of pre-trial investigations. In one such inquiry, prosecutors have spent months probing whether Nicolò Pollari, the head of Italian military intelligence whom the government replaced on Monday, was involved in the alleged abduction by CIA agents of an Egyptian imam in Milan in 2003. Other reasons include an overly detailed penal code, too few judges, and a tortuous appeals process in which defendants have every incentive to use delaying tactics until they benefit from statutes of limitation. But Massimo Ceresa-Gastaldo, professor in criminal law at Milan's Bocconi University, said: “It is not just the problem of statutes of limitation but also the length of the trials. A short trial is not in the interests of the defense.” Mr Berlusconi, who accuses leftwing prosecutors and judges of victimizing him, has been convicted on a few occasions, but the verdicts have been overturned on appeal or annulled by statutes of limitations. In 2004 the Supreme Court cleared Giulio Andreotti, who had been prime minister seven times, of charges of collusion with the Mafia. The court noted that he had enjoyed “friendly ties” with mafiosi before 1980, but said this was before the crime of “Mafia association” existed in Italian law, enabling him to assert his innocence. Recent scandals range from fraud at food companies Cirio and Parmalat to the fixing of football matches. Even Italy's last crown prince has been investigated for racketeering. Some “big fish” spend time in prison before being charged, if charges ever arrive. Gianpiero Fiorani, a banker at the centre of scandals last year, was released after four months, has not been charged with wrongdoing and may never go back to jail. “That is the other side of the coin,” said Mr Ceresa-Gastaldo. “The inefficiency of the penal system and the impossibility of reaching a conclusion can lead to [greater] use of precautionary measures.” There are exceptions. Fausto Tonna, a Parmalat chief financial officer, was sentenced, while Cesare Previti, a former Berlusconi personal lawyer and defense minister, has twice been convicted of corruption. He is under house arrest. Marcello Dell'Utri, a Berlusconi political and business associate, was sentenced to nine years in prison in December 2004 for Mafia association. He is free pending appeal and, like Mr Previti, denies he broke the law.
This report comes directly from the FT today, perfect example of our Corrupt Politicians stil claming power.
Thanks and rest my case

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | November 23, 2006 05:40 PM

Peppy, Beppe is a cheapskate... and what about YOU??????Look who's talking!

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | November 22, 2006 11:11 PM

Vito K:
Beware to what you promise to Beppe.
He is from Genova, which means he is a cheapskate like few in the world.

Knowing him, you could wind up also washing his car and cooking for the man.


Be cool.

Jokes apart, this could be the beginning of the end for some bloodsuckers.

Posted by: Peppiniello da Capua | November 22, 2006 10:27 PM

Dear Beppe,
i'm writing to you in the english version because i want to know..se è possibile incontrarti per sviluppare la mia tesi sul tuo blog. Io studio scienze politiche e relazioni internazionali e la tua continua ricerca della verità è una cosa che stimo talmente tanto che sarei disposto a lavorare per te gratis.
ti ringrazio e spero in una tua risposta

Posted by: Vito K. | November 22, 2006 10:02 PM

This voting kerfuffle is nothing but a page taken from the U.S.A. Presidential Election's book. Cheer up! You're not alone.

Posted by: Enrico Rossi | November 22, 2006 09:39 PM

Luigi, Obviously it was a joke!
I know very well where I am and in which country I live. I don't see any possibilities to change the situation at the moment, because of what Giovanni wrote below: we have no democracy? Italians don't give a shit about it, the main thing is that we are the goddamned champions of the world!

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | November 22, 2006 06:30 PM

Dear Raffaella (and those who´d choose not to believe),
I reckon you should indeed! And in spite of considering it as just a passing-away nightmare, you should realise that this ´crap´ is as real as it gets!
No bloody nightmare but pure, astonishing reality which perhaps does pose the biggest threat.

Truth is all around us, here in this Blog, in the Economist´s threating profiles on Italy, on the declining performance of our country and on the poor indicators of Humand Development Index (UN).

If you decide upon waking up now, you´ll get through hard times but in so doing you´ll learn how cope with this Italian mess. Should you consider not to wake up and blindly live, well, one day you maybe end up getting up and realise that you´re now closer to Africa than Europe (Economically, Culturally and According to Rule of Law) and that Italy as you thought you knew it had faded away for good.

Up to you, as always.

Fatti non foste a viver come bruti,
ma per seguir virtute e canoscenza. (Dante)

Posted by: Luigi | November 22, 2006 06:09 PM

I'm not surprised about the electoral fraud from the "house of liberty", but I'm very disgusted by the reaction of the left coalition.
How can they say: "We have won anyway"????????
I wonder what the words "free elections" and "democracy" mean in this country.
I don't want to believe it, I would rather think it's a nightmare, and we will wake up sooner or later.

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | November 22, 2006 05:45 PM

Of course there are worse countries to live in, like North Corea, Burkina Faso, Nicaragua and Communist China.
And we are slowly drifting towards their status.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | November 22, 2006 04:03 PM

What do we expect?
The new government, instead of correcting the problems just increased the taxes thus protecting those criminals while disregarding completely the real needs of the nation.
Has the Biagi law been canceled?
Were the prices of the first needed goods been readjusted to before the euro kicked in?
But we are the goddamned champions of the world!
This is what counts!
If the majority of the Italians thinks like this they deserve to pay more and get less!
Wake up!
Wake up!
Wake up!
We are slowly getting the status of a Third World Country!

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | November 22, 2006 04:00 PM

Honestly speaking, it wouldn´t really shock me at all. After all that´s Italy, it´s part of its backbone that the thief and the fraud are to prevail over ethics and legality.
Nothing will ever change, in that, after all, we are not as poor and desperate as other countries to gather on the streets and try to change this from its root.
We even seems to enjoy this pain-in-the-ass of being Italian and being constantly frauded (Remember Aldo,Giovanni&Giacomo´s Tafazzi? Always hopping and merrily singing when hitting his attributes?)

At least there are countries which are far worst than others. And that´s something to consider, at least to have an idea of how low we should never get to.


Posted by: Luigi | November 22, 2006 03:57 PM

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