Those phantoms

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Someone has written that if Grillo is an economist and Strada a negotiator then politicians have disappeared.
That, if they are the ones dealing with Telecom and Afghanistan then there’s no one left in Parliament. Politics have disappeared. It’s a fact. It’s happened like the mid-seasons.
I can’t tell you when, but I definitely know that it’s no longer there. It’s been transformed into a great ball of conferences, newdemocraticparties, oldhousesofliberty, replayingactionsofdeadsocialists. There’s no one left to deal with facts and real things.
The politicians are too intent on their belly buttons. They look at them and with satisfaction they show them to the TV courtesans and they exhibit them to the newspaper-workers-with-permanent-jobs.
It’s a separate world. A world of phantoms with highest salaries and the highest number of convicts in Europe. Is there perhaps some connection?
Telecom is only the tip of the iceberg, the proved evidence of the lack of reference points, of the backside of someone driving this country that’s been abandoned to its own devices like a dog on the motorway. A dog that still has to pay the road toll.
Anyone can say what they want, do what they want. As long as they are part of the “in” crowd.
The occupation of all the communication spaces by a handful of rascals can be defined with a single word: dictatorship.
And let’s not call that soft because it’s not. It has those murdered at work, the “precarious” workers, the lack of light shed on tomorrow. Turn on the light, at least a single bulb.
Politics that ignores the citizens has only two routes to choose from. To be removed or to move the armed forces. The media today are justifying a situation that is obviously anti-democratic. The Register of journalists should be abolished. Let’s start the register of arse lickers. There’s already a many-kilometres-long-queue to join up.

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Ciao Dave,for a moment I thought"here we go another whingeing pommy" glad you are not.ciao

Posted by: evakulnura | April 23, 2007 12:08 AM

Hello Mr. Chiametti,

As I was reading the scandals you highlighted, it occurred to me that all these scandals eventually end up in... nothing!

Italians howl for the first day or two, when the scandal breaks out. Then, it all fades away into oblivion.

If Italians do not really care to see things fixed, they invite more of the same. And they get just that!

They shouldn´t complain then!


Posted by: Dave Matthews | April 22, 2007 07:18 PM

Ciao Eva,

You´re right, I like to stir up controversy sometimes :D

I should have said that, personally, I would prefer to live in other places than Australia. And I should also have pointed out that I think Australia is much better than Italy.



Posted by: Dave Matthews | April 22, 2007 07:11 PM

Hello there,
From what I read on Italian newspapers, the image that comes across a pretty dismal, and failures in every fields are a clear signal of the Incompetence and nepotism running rampant through every aspect of the Society.
Politics: Parties growing and disappearing like mushrooms?
Soccer: Scandals through the entire spectrums? And Italy is the world champion, just imagine if it wasn’t?
Finance: Well, this fact alone is the clearest indication that nothing has changed since the 60th.
All of the above fields, are the pinnacle of dismal failure just by themselves, while with the addition of the following:
Justice? (11 Year for the average 1st judicial Grade?)
Purchase Power of Italian Salaries?
Corruption in Institution and Business? (43rd or 47th not sure please correct me if wrong)
Freedom of Information? (57th place ranking?)
Taxation? (The highest in Europe, whith the worst Public Services in Europe?)
Can someone please give me a brighter picture of Italian Institutions, or do I get information from the wrong source?
While in every evolved society, Pay for Performance seams to be the way forward, I am struggling trying to figure out what do Italian Managers and VIP’s have to cheer about?
Got it now, they are trying to cheer you up, otherwise it can’t continue this way, or maybe it can!

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | April 22, 2007 05:36 PM

Dave,it all a matter of opinions,and what are you looking for in life,saying that Australia sucks,is little bit exstreme.ciao

Posted by: evakulnura | April 22, 2007 01:57 AM

In my very personal opinion, Australia sucks.

Posted by: Dave Matthews | April 21, 2007 01:39 PM

Prof. J.s.Mill,
Yes my writing is not up to scratch,I do not need to write,and that is one of the reason I joined this side of the blog,I do my daily practise,regarding employments,I do not know much,I know in Australia we are short of barber and hairdresser and in Sydney a shortage of waiter, because I read it on the newspaper,the best thing is to check with Australian department of immigration web page to see what the requirement are now,laws have change since I did my application,,about Italian men,(and forgive for what I am saying Enrico Rossi and Prince),honestly is mostly hype, Australian men are better lovers,ciao

Posted by: evakulnura | April 21, 2007 04:04 AM

When I first moved to Australia,I thought the system here,was to exspensive for only 20 million people having to paying all this goverments, State and Federal,after 17 years I think differently,it is more balance situation and they keep each other on their those checking each other for mistakes,this is good for us,and in the last year lots of ministers heads have been chop off

Posted by: evakulnura | April 20, 2007 12:34 PM

thank you very much

Posted by: ema | April 20, 2007 11:32 AM


I am not so convinced that voting a candidate would make any difference.

The candidates are selected by the party, so the voter´s choice is already restricted.

Also, candidates´ programs and beliefs are mostly unknown. Most people first decide which party they want to vote for. When faced with a list of unknown candidates, they e are likely to pick the first name on the list--or one at random--thus defying the purpose of voting for a candidate!

Even if the candidate´s program is clear, we all know that candidates are not bound to do what they have promised. So, they will write up whatever their target electorate wants to read... and, once elected, then do whatever they please. (Prodi´s 280+ page "program" is a good example!)

Voting single candidates can even be risky: if the candidate switches sides... then a vote for party A cound end up supporting party B... Not so good. This cannot happen if the party gets the vote.

By this, however, I am NOT implying that the current system produces any satisfactory results.

Posted by: Dave Matthews | April 20, 2007 10:34 AM

thank you very much very very nıce...

Posted by: nakliyat | April 20, 2007 09:55 AM

Hello there ladies and gentleman
Let it be clear and out in the open that Italy’s current status is mostly a result of Politicians working their way to Social and Financial Security, shielded from any Legal and Jurisdictional Responsibilities.
Having said that, where have You (Citizens) been?
Playing soccer and watching the latest bimbo’s program?
In every so called evolved Society, checks and balances are put in place specifically for this reason, although in Italy between the daily Scandals popping up someone forgot to keep an eye on the ball.
Now, seams to me the foe is taking the money and laughing all the way with the Banks, while the Mr. Prodi does know how to run his own personal budget as for the Country’s budget will be covered with your taxes.
Hold these Idiots responsible for where your Country is today, and stop cussing at each other, one side versus the other.
Wake up, that is exactly how they thrive while you still are scratching your head.
Responsibility, responsibility!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | April 19, 2007 07:25 PM

The problem with politics is that it is not a mission anymore, it is a profession.
Politics follows the rules of marketing, not inspiration and lead...and this was not invented by Berlusconi.

Whant to be elected? Make a survey, see how many people want "what", and make that "what" to your program...and of course make the marketing campaign to "communicate your product".

This is also basically the reason why left and right programs become more and more similar.

Some country is worse than others, but the principle is to be seen in every country.

People want bullshit? Give them bullshit, don't even try to convince them of the opposite.

There is only one inspired politician in Italy, who cares about battles and not about chairs: Marco Pannella.

The rest, are marketers.


Posted by: Antonio Disarò | April 19, 2007 03:57 PM

Hello there,
Although they appear too busy having conclaves of Affiliation Parties, let’s not fool ourselves these so called Idiotic Bunch (Someone still believes they hold the know-how of The Bel Paese!) are well aware their credibility, their actions, their misguided policies and last but not list their Incompetence is surfacing laud and clear.
Let me re-iterate one more time, and this is directed to Left and to the Right:
Mr. Berlusconi, 5 years at the helm, please someone tell me what he did for Italians not his own Portfolios?
Mr. Prodi, after having dismantled IRI (Currently under investigation for possible bribery and money received by his Consulting Company ASE) while with the latest Government well is under your own eye what is happening.
Do any of these Idiots have any Political credibility?
Do any of these Idiots have Italy and Italians in mind while they govern?
Do any believe what they tell you?
Would you thrust your saving in their hand?
Who is responsible for each and every Policy Issue Legislated by the Government?
Is any of the above ever been held Responsible for anything?
Would you buy a used Car from them?
Respond the above questionnaire and You will know how well the Parties Aggregation, Affiliation, Federation and Combination!
Same Idiots, new Parties, new promises although same outcome, You pay and they laugh all the way to the Bank or retirement, and not necessarily in that order either!
Thanks for the support of the Idiotic Bunch!

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | April 19, 2007 02:50 PM

Well, If thats the case then we can all be quite relieved , i thought that Italian politicians were too busy with their talk show appearances to worry about such trivia.

politician |?päl??ti sh ?n| noun
a person who is professionally involved in politics, esp. as a holder of or a candidate for an elected office.
• a person who acts in a manipulative and devious way, typically to gain advancement within an organization.

Posted by: Dee | April 19, 2007 02:04 PM

I don't wanna be too picky but I'd like to suggest a little correction.
Regarding the dictatorship you talk about, the translation says:
"And let’s not call that morbid because it’s not."
Actually IT IS! Because if I remember correctly, "morbid" stands for gruesome, grisly and also characteristic of disease..

"Morbid" is not the english translation of the italian word "morbido" (which means "soft")

So actually the dictatorship, here, is SO VERY MORBID!!! ;-)


Posted by: Alessandro Arcuri | April 19, 2007 01:45 PM

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