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Bossi. What was Bossi thinking while Asphalt Head was talking in Parliament? While all Topo Gigio’s troops where declaring their eternal love for him? And while Fassino-Unipol-five-terms-of-office was showing off in a tri-slingual bipartisan exercise? What was the “Senatùr” thinking when he saw seated on the benches in front of him, P2-folk and mafia-folk?
I used voip to connect up to his brain and I intercepted signals from his synapses and probe his memory. The result is just amazing.

”The only reform that is really dear to Berlusconi’s heart is that his TV channels are not touched. Instead, I’m saying that we need to take them away from him, because his TV channels are against the Constitution.
The first reform to be done is to get information to circulate. Berlusconi is everything but he’s not a democrat. Gelli created “il progetto Italia” and the good man Berlusconi was in the P2. Berlusconi is much worse than Pinochet. 1(*)

Well does it seem possible that a person who owns 140 companies could act in the interests of the citizens? When he cries, you have a laugh: it means that everything is OK, that he hasn’t yet found the code for the cash safe. He’s trying all the time: the RAI, the magistracy, the pardon for his get-rich-quick-building-entrepreneur friends, pensions. 2(*)

We would need to trigger the law for the reconstruction of the Fascist Party. These are that thing there. And it can easily be shown to be true. Inside them they have no election mechanism. This party has been built by a band of 10 people who stay behind the screens and control it, not respecting the rules of the Constitution, they are calling the President of the Republic a “golpista”, they empty Parliament of powers and they want to create an executive with no controls above them.

Furthermore, they use the TV channels, that are political tools put together by Berlusconi when he was in the P2, in accordance with the “progetto Gelli”: whereby from a political viewpoint, the country should be made of the Right against the Left after the break up of the consociational mechanism that acted as a shock absorber.

They have used the TV channels as a bludgeon to do and undo. They are an anti-democratic band about whom it is good that there is some magistrate making enquiries to see whether there is the crime of reconstruction of the Fascist Party 3(*). Watch out, that one wants to make us a gift of another Twenty Years. 4(*)"


1(*) La Padania and Telepadania, 11/11/1998
2(*) 8/8/1994
3(*) Ansa 19/1/1995
4(*) 9/5/1994

The quotes are from the book: "Se li conosci li eviti" by Travaglio-Gomez and published by chiarelettere

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ooooooooooooo, Nobody cares what is being said on this blog? My friend, you're one of the nobodies.

Posted by: LP | May 16, 2008 02:46 AM


Edededed, Grillo's blog, as you can see by the number of comment it picks up outside of Italy, is more of an Italian phenomena than anything else. Grillo strikes a chord with millions of people thanks to his fearless satire exposing the rot in the Italian political system and weaknesses of Italians in general. He is appealing to young people because he is the only one that truly understands the precarious state of their lives, their future full of trepidations, their frustrations of being considered incapable of having independent lives. Grillo articulates their existential concerns while ridiculing a pompous and corrupted political system. Grillo's sarcasm, pointed ironies, paradoxical revelations and denounciations, unmasks the so called "powerfull and respectable personalities" paints on them a bull's eye for young people to aim their criticisms at. But Grillo goes beyond satire and comedy. His various political intiatives give young people concrete projects for changing a system soaked with the worse nature of the Italian character. I think Grillo is the spark that will change entrenched ways of doing things that young people are so desperate to change.

Posted by: LP | May 15, 2008 02:14 PM


Edededed, Grillo's blog, as you can see by the number of comment it picks up outside of Italy, is more of an Italian phenomena than anything else. Grillo strikes a chord with millions of people thanks to his fearless satire exposing the rot in the Italian political system and weaknesses of Italians in general. He is appealing to young people because he is the only one that truly understands the precarious state of their lives, their future full of trepidations, their frustrations of being considered incapable of having independent lives. Grillo articulates their existential concerns while ridiculing a pompous and corrupted political system. Grillo's sarcasm, pointed ironies, paradoxical revelations and denounciations, unmasks the so called "powerfull and respectable personalities" paints on them a bull's eye for young people to aim their criticisms at. But Grillo goes beyond satire and comedy. His various political intiatives give young people concrete projects for changing a system soaked with the worse nature of the Italian character. I think Grillo is the spark that will change entrenched ways of doing things that young people are so desperate to change.

Posted by: LP | May 15, 2008 02:10 PM


AD, What's with that "fuck you and your mother"! What are you talking about? Are you trying to shock us? Insult someone? Venting your frustrations? What? Whatever your reasons, I'll give you a piece of advice (whether you want it or not). Whenever or wherever you use that kind of language it's wise to sign with your real first name and last name. Otherwise people will dismiss you as a show-off with a big mouth hiding behind a monitor.

Posted by: Louis Pacella | May 15, 2008 01:30 PM


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We are not snob or intellectual

[...]

Posted by: Gualtiero Cocco | May 15, 2008 03:10 AM
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YEAH, NO KIDDING!

Posted by: Beppe | May 15, 2008 01:12 PM


ITALIANS DO IT BETTER

The problem is figuring out what exactly that "it" is.

Posted by: III III III III | May 15, 2008 01:07 PM


ITALIANS DO IT BETTER

The problem is figuring out what exactly that "it" is.

Posted by: III III III III | May 15, 2008 01:07 PM


Read David Barneby's post.

I have to agree with the fact that the some of what is in this blog is rambling, not very well translated into English and, in the case of this posting, not funny.

I dont agree with the follow up comment from AD but I also dont agree that Bossi and Berlusconi are the best men for the job.

Bossi is an ass and its easy to take shots at him as this article does. I just dont find the satire in the blog any way funny. Maybe I was reading Private Eye for too long.

Anyway, I see that in the local election results that the Grillo guy got 80 votes. But the same people got in and nothing has really changed. Maybe that is the way its meant to be :-(

Posted by: John Boland | May 15, 2008 12:34 PM


David, I agree to disagree totally and unequivocally with you. I am sure you can't be that naive, so the question is: why are you writing this drivel?

Posted by: Mark | May 15, 2008 12:19 PM


Fuck you and your mother!

Posted by: AD | May 15, 2008 07:55 AM


I have read this blog in both Italian and English . Either way it does not say much sense,is confused and has a stereotype political bias.
Beppe, I think your just in this for the bloggs , for the fun of making mischief . I believe , that no matter which political party was in power , you would have lots to say that was derogatory about the Prime Minister and the entire government.
Italians have only one concept of Democracy ; which is every man for himself ! In parliamentary government, it is a sliding scale from Communist to Fascist . The word Fascist has stuck in the minds of Italians and Germans after the terrors of the second world war . Fascism is a militarist movement to enforce the wishes of a dictatorship government .
Whoever governs a country, right wing or left , has to do it for the benefit of all the citizens .
The Italian peoples views of Mussolini are clouded by Fascism in the later years and by the disaster of World War Two . The Ignorant Italian people of today do not remember or know of the enormous benefits of the Mussolini government to better the lives of the most impoverished rural citizens and to turn Italy from being only agricultural, to being an industrial economy .
You question how a man with 140 companies can possibly have an interest in the lower strata of working, laborer Italian ! You cannot have 140 companies without employing a lot of people; when you employ a lot of people there is more to think about than the work they do. Welfare is a major factor in running a successful company . Today, members of parliament are mostly career polititians , who have never run a business in their lives and who are in it for the money and prestiege, more than the benefit of their nation and people. Running a country for its national success and for the benefit of the people is big busines . Far better to have a very successful businessman as prime minister; than somebody who only has parliamentary experience of promoting political theory.
The problem with Italian government today is that priorities are upside down ; look after the working man , social services ; no matter whether the country can afford it ; the real priorities, such as the economy can go to pot so long as the people are happy .
You can complain about Bossi ; he represents the people of Northern Italy who provide the wealth for the rest . Are they not justified in objecting to financing Southern Italy ; when industries become failures and money goes into the coffers of the maffia?
You have much to say about honesty and corruption of individual polititions and in government; most Italians would say , what do you mean dishonesty and corruption ; that's expediency , that's the way italy works .
Berlusconi is the best man for the job, at the moment; if you really care for the well being of Italy, should give him support and encourage others to do likewise .

Posted by: David Barneby | May 15, 2008 06:46 AM


Gualtiero, what worries me is that the meaning gets lost or muddled in the translation. I am now reading the Italian version to fully understand Grillo’s text and occasionally I comment in English on this Blog.

Posted by: Mark | May 15, 2008 04:46 AM


You know we are mainly Italian to post in english,
we have not Harvardy Yaley or Princeton's degrees.

We are not snob or intellectual, we speak our mind
sometime not in a very edge american-english.

So forgive us and please write, and give us a chance
to learn a better english from you.

I am sure that most of American and English don't
know Italian, even less a proper Italian, so don't be picky, the sense after all is more important.

Posted by: Gualtiero Cocco | May 15, 2008 03:10 AM


It's official!
Today, May 14, 2008,
the fifteen-year cold war between the two opposing wings of fake regime, right and left, has finished.
In parliament, began the veltrusconian era.
Information controlled by the regime.

The PAX VELTRUSCONIANA

We will see.

We will see if they will be able:

-- to open landfills, build new incinerators
-- to do TAV
-- to privatise water
-- to make the Dal Molin
-- to cementificare cities
-- to pollute even with nuclear energy
-- to make the bridge on the Messina gulf

without using army and police against defenceless people.

In the meantime, hordes of small fascists have already begun to massacre of cask "slightly" different individuals...

Posted by: Manuel S | May 15, 2008 02:31 AM


How do you translate the meaning of nonsense... without losing the sense of the meaning?

It´s not easy!

Posted by: Translate this: "Sgagiungas!" | May 15, 2008 01:42 AM


Yep, I agree with LP. I am Italian but have been living in the UK for the past ten years. A better English version of the messages in this blog would achieve a greater interest with the people (Italian or not) living and working abroad. How does the translating process for these messages work?

Posted by: ClaudiaB | May 15, 2008 01:30 AM


I don't know to what degree the English version of this blog is important to Grillo. If it is important the reader would never have known it by the way English is being butchered. It needs much improvement. Writing is a means of communication. Good communication means clear and concise writing. Poor communication translates into poor democracy. Poor democracy means poor participation. Poor participation makes the blog a poor blog. A poor blog hurts the movement. If freedom of speech and information means anything it means understanding what is being written and said above all.

Posted by: LP | May 15, 2008 01:15 AM


Bossi is a loose cannon and the chink in the cavaliere's armor. Let's hope he'll get to work quickly and do the job we are hoping for....

Posted by: Mark | May 14, 2008 11:16 PM


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