Vicenza: The Lega and the truncheon

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”No dal Molin” – response to the Cabinet’s decision

Vicenza does not want the new Dal Molin military base. The people of Vicenza are set to confirm as much in the referendum scheduled for next autumn. In the meantime, they are protesting against the decision in favour of the base, as taken by the Cabinet and enduring “thinning-out” attacks, in the sense that they are being truncheoned, in the manner of the “ndo cojo cojo”, by the MPs.
Certainly, the people of Vicenza should not take over the local railway station. They must find another way to make their point. Another way of explaining that the American occupation of Italy has been going on for the past 63 years. That the 90 atomic bombs made in the USA and now sitting at Ghedi Torre and Aviano are an offence to the collective civil conscience of our Country. That Vicenza is set to become the largest military base in the whole of Europe. And that, from this very base, the American bombers could take off on their killing missions.
Our Constitution specifically rejects war, so on what grounds does this Government simply go ahead and grant authorisation for Italy to act as America’s aircraft carrier, used today to bomb the Middle East and tomorrow, who knows who is next in turn? The Berlin wall may well have fallen, but now, twenty years on, the American Army is still here. How long must we wait for Italy to be free of all foreign armies, the hundredth anniversary of the end of the Second World War perhaps?
Maroni has the people of Vicenza truncheoned, simply because they don’t want their land to become a place of war. This has got to be the height of contradiction. The Lega, arch-enemy of globalisation, lays out the red carpet to welcome the armies from across the ocean. No to Coca Cola, but yes to atomic bombs. We are masters in our house, but with 90 nuclear bombs spread between Brescia and the Friuli Region. Masters of what? Collecting fingerprints from gypsy children? The Lega of the truncheon and of the Government (La Russa will bring along the cod-liver oil). Being strong with the weak and weak with the strong.
Government Commissioner Paolo Costa has arrived in Vicenza. In future, if the people of Vicenza dare to hold any peaceful demonstrations against the military base, the army will be sent in without delay. Already before the last elections I warned that Berlusconi would use the army against the population of this Country in order to govern, however, it won’t continue for very long. Stand up magnagatti (“Cat-eaters”, a nickname for the people of the Veneto Region). Say no to the “Dal Molin” military base.

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Italy is a fabulous country, and I walk freely through Vicenza without opposition. In fact, alot of people like us here, and the Americans leaving would cripple the local economy.

Posted by: Andy Thornberry | March 16, 2009 10:10 PM


Beppe Grillo is a LIAR twisting facts around to fool people just like politicians do. Guilty of manslaughter, he should still be in jail. He says the constitution rejects war - so what ?? It doesn't say we can't go to war for whatever reason we want !! Ant country will be free as long as it is armed to the teeth, that's why we have the Americans. Only Grillo and his sheep doesn't understand this. Grillo is only fooling the people that the politicians haven't been able to fool. Shame on you Grillo, master of demagogy and rhetoric!!

Posted by: Roberto Mion | August 6, 2008 06:30 AM


Sorry, I addressed my previous comment to Embedded

Posted by: Marc Sarzi | August 3, 2008 02:21 PM

Dear Marc,
Notwithstanding all of the above, I am not a pessimist but a "realist". As far as most people looking after their own "orticello", I agree with you wholeheartedly. Greed and self-interest are rife everywhere, not only in Italy.

Ciao to you too ...

Posted by: Adriana Mian | August 4, 2008 01:33 AM


To both:
Posted by: Edededed | August 2, 2008 03:16 PM

And

Third World countries will be nuclear waste dumping grounds. They're not telling us as much, but that's where the waste will go.
Posted by: lou pacella | August 3, 2008 01:51 PM

http://ecoworldly.com/2008/06/24/italy-and-nuclear-an-endless-debate/

February 28, 2008
Public opposition is growing to a private company's proposal to ship radioactive waste from Italy to burn, "process," "recycle," transport and dump throughout the US.

http://www.nirs.org/press/02-28-2008/1

Dear Embedded,
Notwithstanding all of the above, I am not a pessimist but a "realist". As far as most people looking after their own "orticello", I agree with you wholeheartedly. Greed and self-interest are rife everywhere, not only in Italy.

Cheers ... :-)

Posted by: Adriana Mian | August 4, 2008 01:27 AM


Great comment, Adriana.

The only thing I do not share with your is your pessimism. Thanks to Grillo, di Pietro, Martinelli and many other voices on the web I believe we can still rescue our situation in Italy, but I'm afraid a major crisis will be needed to shake the complacent majority who looks after their own "orticello" (allotment garden).

Ciao

Posted by: Marc Sarzi | August 3, 2008 02:21 PM


Great comment, Adriana.

The only thing I do not share with you is you pessimism. Thanks to Grillo, di Pietro, Martinelli and many other voices on the web I believe we can still rescue our situation in Italy, but I'm afraid a major crisis will be needed to shake the complacent majority who looks after their own "orticello" (allotment garden).

Ciao

Posted by: Marc Sarzi | August 3, 2008 02:20 PM


Hello Edededed,

Third World countries will be nuclear waste dumping grounds. They're not telling us as much, but that's where the waste will go.

Posted by: lou pacella | August 3, 2008 01:51 PM


@ giovanni v@stri

are only lefted you and some other insane as you to fear

the communism, alive ideology in the hearts, but modified in the reality

Cuba has only a problem being placed too much neighbour to the United States! with all the sudden embargoes from the Yankee any country is throw headlong in the abyss, the wars are not fought only with the armses but even with the economic power in fact the Giappone and China show that even the United States am vulnerabilities!

the muslims are only the valve of emergency for the americans, distracts the American people with pretend enemies!

Posted by: Antonio Desani | August 3, 2008 10:00 AM


NO; NO,,,,,,THIS IUS NO TIME TO GO KIDDING THIS WAY .......NO:::::::THE BASE YOU ARE RIGHT , I UNDERSTAND , BUT BUT LISTEN CAREFULLY TO OBAMA SPEECH IN BERLIN, LISTEN TO IT .:: GIVE HIM A CHANCE, GIVE PEACE A CHANCE ,... AS THE SITUATION IS THE ONE WE HAVE INHERITED FROM THE PAST AMERICAN ADMINISTRATION - HOPE OBAMA WINS , THINK OF ME GOING TO CAMPAIGN FOR OBAMA £ YEARS AGO EXACTLY FOR THE VICENZA ISSUE ; I LIVE IN NY ....-WE HAVE NO CHOISE LEFT , NO CHOISE ......, YES MORE THAN EVER WE HAVE TO STAND ON THAT SIDE EVEN IF THEY GAVE AS SO MAMANY TROUBLES.....SO LITTLE RESPECT OF COSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS , THAT IS HOW IT IS THIS ANTIAMERICANISM IS DANGEROUS , lLET KEEP US FOCUSED ON OUR ISSUE , KICKING OUR POLITICAL CLASS , THAT IS OUR ISSUE ... IT STSARTS FROM THE STREETS OF NAPLES WHERE RUBBISH RIGHT NOW IS HIDDREN; IT START FROM ALL THE LITTLE THINGS YOU ALL NOTICE EVERY DAY YOU ARE MOVING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION....AND GRILLO THIS IS YOUR FAULT !!!!MANY PEOPLE I SEE WHICH WAS WITH YOU - Me TOO- IS GOING AWAY , I APPRECIATE THRE JOB , I DON' T LISTEN TO THE MEDIA WHICH TRY TO DISTRUGGERTI ; STILL YOU ARE NOT A LEADER AND THIS IS EVIDENT; WRONG DIRECTION ; IS LIKE AN ARMY GOING DIRECTLY TO THE PRECIPIZIO ......

Posted by: Giuliana Caporale | August 3, 2008 07:18 AM


Why is it that when someone presents factual information, which tends to dispute popular opinion, the only argument one-eyed people can come up with is that he/she is a communist. Personally I am apolitical. This is simply because in my twilight years I have come to believe that the "little people" no longer have any say in their destiny. There are greater powers in this world manipulating all that is happening around us and it doesn't matter any longer whether you vote right or left.

The Italian situation is unique and is a prime example of what can happen if people don't make the effort to glean out the truth from all the hype that any media dishes out. Democracy, like any political system has its faults but it can only be as effective as the people who participate in it. When the Italian people voted Berlusconi the first time around it was a shock ... this time it is unforgivable. However, it must be said that the Italian electoral system is also at fault because in wanting to shift from left to right, the Italian electorate simply had no choice of leader. Anyone for HOBSON'S CHOICE?

Posted by: Adriana Mian | August 3, 2008 01:37 AM


Maroni, pure-blooded Northerner, fingerprinter of gypsy children, sends the Italian Army to bash the skulls of the "Padani", "his people", "blood of his blood", as they protest against American bases, storing atomic bombs, a hop-skip-and-a-jump from their neighbourhoods. Beppe calls the skull-cracking operation a "contradiction". In reality, Maroni is a traitor. But such is the style of Berlusconi's government. Consider Fini's National Alliance party, self-proclaimed standard-bearer of everything Italian, merely telling the leader of the Lega party, Bossi, to stop giving the finger to the Italian national anthem. Or Silvio's Freedom People Party, quietly accepting Bossi's finger. It could be argued that political expediency trumps idealism. And that may be so. But should expediency be accepted even when your political ally insults the nation before millions of countrymen? Does that say anything about attitudes and habits of Italian politicians? Consider Berlusconi's case: The man is in the biggest, most obvious conflict of interest of the present. He is Italy's Prime Minister while owning and controlling, lock-stock-and-barrel, the Italian media. Yes, you read right, the most important institution of a free country owned and controlled by its Prime Minister. And it's accepted as matter of fact. In Italy, each time members of the political opposition bring up the obvious flaw, members of the governing parties dismiss it by rolling their eyes and/or don a sarcastic smirk as if to say, "there they go again with our Prime Minister's conflict of interest." Raising the question has become a useless exercise; in fact, it's no longer raised. Berlusconi, and Italians in general, should mull over the NBC and Maria Shriver case. The broadcasting company asked Ms. Shriver, a most popular newswoman, to resign when her husband, Arnold Schwarzenegger, became governor of California. Being, simultaneusly the wife of a Governor and a journalist for a national media outlet was not compatible: the station could not tolerate the mere perception the situation might have projected. On the other hand, Berlusconi not only owns the Italian media, he got himself elected Prime Minister. Sometimes you have to wonder about the causes of the dismal situation Italy finds herself in today.

Posted by: lou pacella | August 2, 2008 08:48 PM


Nuclear power back on the agenda ...

FOURTH

QUARTER

ACTIVITIES REPORT

for the quarter ending:

30 June 2008

CORPORATE & MARKET

·

Significant moves in Germany, Italy and Greece to change their long-held opposition to nuclear power.

·

Additional applications for Combined Operation and Construction licences are in place for new nuclear plants within the US.

·

Uranium spot price dropped to US$57 during June, lifting to US$64 per lb by early July, with the long term contract price holding steady at US$80 per lb.

·

The June quarter saw many developed countries begin laying the foundations for future debate on the issues of climate change and security of

future power supplies. On the eve of the G8 summit in July, Germany's Chancellor has come out firmly in favour of nuclear power and has rejected legislation previously passed to phase out nuclear power by 2021, saying the decision was wrong and that a rethink was needed; while

the Greek Government has called for debate on whether to include nuclear power to solve their energy and environmental problems.

Other countries have moved further towards reversing or expanding their commitment to nuclear power with the South African cabinet
approving its nuclear policy, paving the way to increase nuclear reliance from 2 GWe to around 40 GWe by 2025; and Italy, the last G8 country

with no nuclear power stations, has reversed its opposition to nuclear power and hopes to begin work on the first of four power stations within
four years.

In the US, applications to build 15 new reactors in eight states were submitted, with seven other states already preparing another 12 submissions.
The first reactor could be built and operating by 2016. Currently there are 439 nuclear reactors operating worldwide, with another 36 under

construction and a further 311 in the planning or the proposal stage.


http://newsstore.smh.com.au/apps/previewDocument.ac?docID=GCA00866149TOE

Posted by: Adriana Mian | August 2, 2008 10:09 AM


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