Self centered Germans and English coming on here to tell people who follow Grillo and 5 star that they are insane / stupid, well its like a slap in the face. How dare they, Italians over 8 million who expressed their choice are now being labelled as crazy by Ego centric Germans and English.How many Germans and English speak Italian well, how many know this culture here ?.. very few...

Why should European organization members working in Brussels not pay taxes to their state on their revenue as every European citizen? No single expatriate in a private company has such exemptions. According to the Belgian press, 11.000 eurocrats have salaries higher than the Belgian prime minister.

Some warning!

You got and get very powerful.
The powers of nowadays are firstly just shocked. Secondly they start supervising you more exactly.
Thirdly they start thinking about how to fight you. In the last thing, we should realize, that they realize, that they really could lose their power. And they will not like this! So they will use many as any way to stopp you. One way could be that you suddenly could suffer a car accident or something like that. Please be careful! Perhaps you should think of making your political testament quite sooner than too late... Who will succeed in you if you were not? Like Jesus: There were his words: His words: Do not sell your vote to a person but just for a cause.

I wish you good luck!

I log on under the EN page and still see messages from followers: 1-in Italian (sorry to say bur EN is the international communication language, you like it or not! If you want to be globalised and competitive this is the common language for business, if you are not able to use it...well stay at local old country, which does not apply for most of us!); 2_ are you really an "open minded" and international person? well, you do not need any traslation and should be aware that for getting your voice though at EU and International level you should be able- at least- to discuss and manage policy at international level. Otherwise just stick within your localism, but we are not getting anywhere! So, do you wamt Italy to be a great competitor at EU level? well, you should have people with competencies (not only languages skills even if still missing!!) at EU/international level. What was our representation at EU levels in recent years? Mastella?? -I met him in Brussels airpot recently and insulted him, Carlucci, or Vittorio Prodi (90 years old) that in Brussels all claimed and focused on women rights and participation to business, and then you partcicipate to EU policy meetings as reprentatives of Italy and there are no wowen or young people(still bortaborbe, a word that can not even been translated in EN). WAKE UP!!! Policy is done by people, and we must put people again in first place!Politicians are workers working and paid to take decisions, they are CIVIL SERVANTS working on behalf of citizens,no people that just because they should be managers (and they are NOT!) might have bonuses or other: MUST BE PUBLIC MANAGERS assessed periodically about their performance. This is not UFO thinking, this ias what regularly happens abroad. Honesty and trasparency must become a MUST

voglio ricordare che stiamo vivendo un evento storico della "democrazia" del nostro paese e non solo. per la prima volta abbiamo un posto nella stanza dei"bottoni"possiamo rappresentare noi stessi direttamente.per la prima volta possiamo usare i servizi a nostro favore al posto di esser usati come servizio per altri.un lavoro e un inpegno a beneficio di tutti!in maggior modo per le generazioni a venire!!grazie ancora e tanti auguri! marco

ciao.ho paura che siupiamo tutto il lavoro fatto chiedendo troppo.beppe e un uomo e come tale sbagiera. adesso ha bisognio del nostro supporto per rimanere dov,e..ha a che fare con "professionisti" e non ha nessun supporto mediatico!! quindi noi siamo l,unico appiglio. come tale deve essere solido e forte.ricordatevi che il lavoro comincia adesso!!! se perdiamo questa opportunita non ne avremo un,altra..dobbiamo stare uniti uniti uniti

ciao.ho paura che siupiamo tutto il lavoro fatto chiedendo troppo.beppe e un uomo e come tale sbagiera. adesso ha bisognio del nostro supporto per rimanere dov,e..ha a che fare con "professionisti" e non ha nessun supporto mediatico!! quindi noi siamo l,unico appiglio. come tale deve essere solido e forte.ricordatevi che il lavoro comincia adesso!!! se perdiamo questa opportunita non ne avremo un,altra..dobbiamo stare uniti uniti uniti

Mr. Sperry, Italy is a little, poor and practically deceased country in the EU.

Mr. Geul, the mentioned M5S supporters urging to open with PDminusL are strange a little bit.
Mrs. Barker, my girlfriend is well – mercifully -, but more or less everybody knows Italy will soon be over.

It would be great to get in contact with you.

We as the pirateparty Austria also do have local deputies in city governments in Austria and do a lot of work over the internet.

http://lqfb.piratenpartei.at

eduardo [at] piratenpartei.at

please get in contact with me.

From Canada - We are watching

Bravi a tutti per vostro coraggio

"...i contadini, gli operai, i commercianti, la classe media, tutti sono testimoni... invece loro preferiscono non parlare di questi 13 anni passati, ma solo degli ultimi sei mesi... chi è il responsabile? Loro! I partiti! Per 13 anni hanno dimostrato cosa sono stati capaci di fare. Abbiamo una nazione economicamente distrutta, gli agricoltori rovinati, la classe media in ginocchio, le finanze agli sgoccioli, milioni di disoccupati.. sono loro i responsabili!
Io vengo confuso.. oggi sono socialista, domani comunista, poi sindacalista, loro ci confondono, pensano che siamo come loro. Noi non siamo come loro! Loro sono morti, e vogliamo vederli tutti nella tomba! Io vedo questa sufficienza borghese nel giudicare il nostro movimento..mi hanno proposto un'alleanza. Così ragionano! Ancora non hanno capito di avere a che fare con un movimento completamente differente da un partito politico...noi resisteremo a qualsiasi pressione che ci venga fatta. E' un movimento che non può essere fermato... non capiscono che questo movimento è tenuto insieme da una forza inarrestabile che non può essere distrutta..noi non siamo un partito, rappresentiamo l'intero popolo, un popolo nuovo..."

Adolf Hitler, 1932

This is a wonderful analysis ! Fine !

Now, how is Mr. Grillo going to tackle the economic problems of Italy and with whom is he going to do that ?

Dear Francesca Diana Radice
Please don't use google translate. If I read between the lines you a a religious fanatic of Grillo. But pease don't insult my intelligence by trying to combine your incomprehensible fanaticism with incomprehensible English. There are many people that applaud the Movimento 5 Stella but are terrified that the followers are as fanatical and sycophantic as followers of other political persuasions in Italy. Unfortunately Italians never learn to have an equilibrium.

I believe in your vision. Lets give truth as well as hope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhJ25Lj8NRY

Watching Grillo’s speech closing the electoral run up in piazza San Giovanni gave me chills. Here is a man who truly understands the forces arrayed against the common man and woman and isn’t afraid to describe them as they actually are in brutally honest terms. I have my points of disagreement with him on policy, but he has given us a roadmap to implementing disruptive electoral change on a shoestring budget by utilizing the potential of the ‘net as a detour around the captive and corrupted MSM. I think this model can work in almost any democratic system, the measures in place to prevent such a workaround all at their heart rely on controlling people’s perceptions through mass media propaganda–-convincing them that such an attempt is futile, and the ‘net is structurally and fundamentally too fluid, interactive, multiplexed and chaotic for the tried and true control methods to reliably filter.

Neoliberal austerity and the needless pain and suffering it ladles out necessarily pushes societies under its control toward tipping points in popular perception and I don’t think the people pushing it realize that controlling the major TV networks and newspapers can no longer guarantee that more compelling competing narratives won’t be heard.

While we should all be wary of the charismatic leader model, it may be that we psychologically require such totems to assemble around and the seductive leaderless OWS model was simply unsuited to the way we are hard wired.

Because of close family connections in Italy I’ve been watching the Grillo/M5S phenomena unfold for a number of years. It is heartening to see its rise from a fringe movement to a major political force in such a short time. I don’t think (supposed implacably two party system notwithstanding)there is any reason something similar can’t happen in the US. If fact the biggest obstacle is simply the perception among those who would be predisposed to join such a movement that it isn’t a feasible undertaking.

Imagine what could nucleate around a charismatic Obama-like figure here in the US–-albeit one who wasn’t a con man and a phony like Obama but a real change agent.

Peer Steinbrueck in Germany was totally correct. To vote for a clown like Beppe Grillo is an act of insanity. The same is true for those who voted for Silvio Berlusconi. The 8,7 Mill. Grillo voters and the 7,3 Berlusconi voters must be considered insane and stupid if they believe that Italy could hold the rest of Europe hostage with their lazy and unproductive way of Italian life. There is no other way than debt reduction through spending cuts and productivity improvements to end the Italian malaise. Otherwise Italy should leave the EU and the Euro and return to their ill-fated Lira. Join Greece and good luck with you anti-EU rethoric .....

My Girlfriend's in a Coma - aired last night on the BBC. 90 minutes long, but compelling viewing. Lots of very eminent Italians with both positive and negative observations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4cspQRxPao

dear mr.grillo
there are currently forces within your movement who are urging you to open with bersani. this sounds to me as an orchestrated move from the pd side, media picked it up immediately, the initial terms used on your blog by these socalled m5s supporters, are strangely identical. you really disturbed the establishment for they are using all tricks to bring you aboard . second observation, if you read through what these socalled supporters are asking you to do and the media reactions of bersani, there are so many simularities that i wonder why above mentioned suporters didnt vote for bersani in the first place.... sincere regards and keep strong...