Orlando, minister without dignity


The M5S will not participate in any discussion on the so-called reform of the justice system that is what is wanted by a convicted criminal with the objectives that are the separation between the careers of prosecutors and judges, the abolition of the principle of mandatory prosecution, the direct accountability of the judiciary, the prohibition on the publication of transcriptions of telephonic interceptions, and the reduction of the time period before the Statute of Limitations blocks proceedings. This is a reform that is tailor-made for thieves and it was preceded by Berlusconi’s despicable laws during his time in government. If Renzie wants to talk to us that’s up to him. It’s not our problem. This still applies in spite of continuous sirens and appeals from institutions in the last few days, that have seen private telephone calls to our senators. Sirens stop! We are not for sale. Nor are we a “Help the P2” call centre. Sitting down at a table with Orlando-the-mannequin would mean acknowledging his dignity, but he lost that the moment he chose to negotiate justice with one who has been definitively convicted for tax fraud. What sort of credibility can that sort of minister possibly have? From whom does he take orders and, above all, what has that to do with justice?

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Wrong 'fowl', Joseph, should be 'foul'.
But I totally agree with the spirit of your post
However, I would seem that Grillo much prefers to rant and rave instead of trying to sort out the country's problems by, as you say, '... sitting down and discussing things...' with the 'enemy'.
The most frustrating aspect of M5s is that what they rant about is almost always perfectly true.

Posted by: John Waddington | August 26, 2014 05:27 PM

Dopo inchiesta 10ennale comparativa Italia-Europa, fatta dall'estero, sono disponibile a presentare a 2 o 3 pers. dello staff di Grillo i risultati.
Senza una valutazione europea, il sistema Italia affonderà, perché in Italia non ci sono le carte e le espereienze per gestire un Paese !

Ulrico Reali

Qualche nota attuale :

Unità incompiuta http://www.corrierecaraibi.com/RUBRICA_SPECIALE_URealist_110221_IL-grande-evento-europeo-del-1861.htm

Vecchia Storia http://www.corrierecaraibi.com/RUBRICA_SPECIALE_URealist_101011_Vecchia-storia-sempre-attuale.htm

Vorremmo http://www.corrierecaraibi.com/RUBRICA_SPECIALE_URealist_100818_Vorremmo-certo-ma-potremmo.htm

Posted by: Ulrico Reali | August 26, 2014 03:55 PM

Well said. While I agree generally that M5S should not sit down with criminals, here in Italy that may not be possible in the near term. What I mean is that it's not so clear who is and who is not a criminal and the act of 'sitting down with' should not, in my opinion, presuppose convictions upon acting parliamentarians or heads of state, as it were. (And where one has indeed been convicted but then pardoned by the same powers, it doesn't advance anything by crying fowl to the same deaf ears who have pardoned them.) Since these people are in fact in our government they 'deserve' to be heard and to hear in the official arena of 'official negotiations'. In fact they are obliged to listen to other positions, whether minority opinions or otherwise. This does not mean that M5S should or would act outside of its mandate to uphold important principles of democracy that aim to serve our nation as well as friends of democracy generally. So, sit down with them. Don't waste too much time about it, but be respectful -- a respect due officials of any state -- and present the M5S positions, even where it means restating and restating the same values. True, the M5S is not for sale. But it does play a part in the government, however marginalized by the ruling parties and their friends, and so it should sit at the table and be counted. What's there to lose by joining in discussion?

Posted by: Joseph Crivelli | August 26, 2014 11:53 AM

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