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Our managers, our employees in Parliament, make money, money, money.

But how much do they make?

More than all the others.

In Europe we are, in this classification, definitely in the top position.

What are we grumbling about? Do we want to start querying one of the few top classifications that we hold (together with the public debt)?

If they were paid according to what they deliver they wouldn’t even be able to live in social housing projects and get their weekly shopping at the discount stores.

Alitalia is mortgaging the fleet and Cimoli has a salary of 2.284.500,00 euro per year, or 190.375,00 euro per month. (The major European airlines have no debts and their CEOs earn much less.)

Telecom has debts of 45,000,000,000 Euro and its managers are the best paid in Europe.

Those Italians who serve in the national Parliament and in the European Parliament are paid more than equivalent politicians from other countries.

Why are they paid so much?

Perhaps it’s because, going round and round in circles, they are always the same people, the same clan that governs and does what the f...k  they want and divides the booty, responsible to power and not to the shareholders and the citizens.


Friends I am studying your replies. It’s like reading Tolstoy’s “War and Peace”  - 800 pages from front to back! As soon as I’ve read them all, I’ll publish the most significant.

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Dear Beppe,

It strikes me that if so much obvious corruption and criminality within public life has been for so long tolerated by the good citizenship of Italy then maybe, just maybe, the good citizens themselves are not without a similar inclination to "skim, divert, and hide from authority, be this tax, police or local council whatever illicit gains, petty theft, or other misdemeanours they may be guilty of. It's a short mental step from the easily accepted small indiscretion to accepting the rationale of the the mega pillage by so many of the country's so-called elder statesmen many of whom probably enjoy a grudging admiration in the minds of many citizens. It is estimated conservatively that 30-40% of Italian economic activity is attributable to undeclared income which, in turn, has fuelled the conspicuous consumption to which many Italians have become accustomed. The euro should, in time, bring economic reality back into Italian life, both private and public, but not without, I fear, great pain. Perhaps only then will the good citizenship of Italy acquire the necessary civic sense to subject their political masters(er..employees) to a more rigorous test of probity.

Posted by: Paul Gunn | November 22, 2005 04:56 PM


Beppe I will renew everyday invite it until the april 9 you open them or you will not answer: you come down in field for We > CANDIDATE YOU<! you're just in time, are you not udent? if they can it are to us 365 comic politicians, can it are to us also 1 comedian in politics...

Posted by: Alessandro Serra | October 25, 2005 12:49 PM


My point was not made to undermine teachers at all, but mainly to give an example of how undeserving politicans are of earning big money. I think it's naive to believe that a politician has so much integrity that he or she can't be bought or sold at any level. Because it is silly to put so much trust in the hands of people who will screw you up, given an opportunity, in order to enhance their personal status or gain more power.
Wake up, this "romantic" view is not very realistic.
That's my opinion, anyway.
R x

Posted by: Rosie Trenta | October 20, 2005 10:05 PM


teachers vs politicians...
oh no, teachers are not less precious at all, they do something like build people, I am so grateful to many of my former teachers... respect!
but there are too basic reasons why politicians have to earn a lot of money: 1)they must not to be corruptible 2)doing politics must not be a job just for rich people.
whether many politicians deserve it or not is another story...

Posted by: Emmanuel Da Iglesias | October 20, 2005 10:01 AM


No kidding? It's a known fact that Italian politicians earn way too much, at the expenses of the rest of us. And it's not about deserving or not a huge salary, becaus I can't understand why a politician should earn more than a teacher, who is a more valuable element in a society.
These parasites (politicians, that is) don't deserve a penny, they lie, cheat, escape justice and seem not to care at all.
I think the fault lies ultimately with the people of this country, who allow them to stay in power no matter what. I reckon there should be a radical change in the way Italians perceive democracy, if they do it at all. Because sometimes I do wonder whether they realize or not that it is a powerful tool in their hands.
Sadly, I don't believe there is much of a democratic conscience amongst the people in this country.
Rosie x

Posted by: Rosie Trenta | October 19, 2005 08:47 PM


I've got two lines:
-since 2001, the italian prime minister has been cheating, step by step, over and over... now it seems italians accept almost any kind of submission (nearly the 90degrees one too!). I am concerned that the 2006 national election could get tarnished, Berlusconi doesn't want to lose power, nothing will prevent him from using one of his tricks. Please watch out!
-although this is the worst government ever, italians were forced to open their eyes, be wiser from now on, get well informed before voting, etc. it's a bit true that we got what we deserved...

Posted by: Emmanuel Da Iglesias | October 19, 2005 05:06 PM


As an external observer, I fully agree with you, Nickie Goomba. Whilst I deeply despise the current government and most of the people involved in it, on the other side I would have serious inhibitions to vote for the left. I am really sorry for Italian voters and worried for the country.

Posted by: Fabio Guadagnuolo | October 18, 2005 11:02 PM


It's depressing to know all about this things.
It Is exactly what I'm thinking :Italy and the world is not in an economically recession ,but our political and industrial class want to make more profit than necessary.
Politicians make money because they do not work for our interest (in USA too) but for the big world corporations.
The big corporations go to Equador or Indonesia to have cheap labor They mess with the inviroment every where and they do not want to pay for it.
We are in a difficult situation because many of us are unemploid here.
There, in Equador, they work at the moment without a future .
Stop to all this.
Our politicians should to be paid like people in the 3world contries or like in some sweatshop here in USA ,because we do not have any good resoult .Many mexican workers get 3/4 dollar an hour and when there is not work they stay home without being paid.
Fiorenzo

Posted by: fiorenzo borghi | October 18, 2005 09:44 PM


Much of what you say is true, no doubt. But with an election soon, one must choose which band of thieves to support. There are no heroes in the race. Choose your scoundrels.

Posted by: Nickie Goomba | October 18, 2005 08:32 PM


salary ain't the problem. The problem is always if someone is worth it. If someone isn't worth it: same salary for a better person. If no one is good enough than you can lower the salary and invest it a better software/hardware/airplane/school/...

Posted by: jay kallahan | October 18, 2005 08:17 PM


That's just a big shame. I'm often abroad and sometimes it's embarrassing trying to explain we are (as someone said..) a normal country.
And also I have to say that even if we seem aggressive with our government we are instead often like zombies at the cell phone gratify
to wear D&G underwear and to watch soccer on TV

Posted by: Fabio Paini | October 18, 2005 06:03 PM


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