Modern Slaves 2

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The Italian post "Modern Slaves" has so far got 3,227 comments (33 for the English language version). People in their twenties, thirties and forties from all over Italy have written comments. Situations are critical, desperate, involving mobbing (bullying), of incomes at charity level.

Reading the comments pulls at the heart strings, especially for young women and men with diplomas, degrees, Masters who find themselves working, if they can, in underpaid positions, without guarantees, for a few months at a time. Without anything.
The Biagi law must be abolished. It’s a law dreamed up by the left and approved by the right. It’s a bipartisan law. A law that externalises the risk from the entrepreneur to the employee, now transformed into a co.co.co and co.co.pro.
The company’s doing badly? The underemployedunderpaid stays at home.
The company’s going well? Another three months of underemployment.
In the comments, the main job available for the new graduates is in a Call Centre (at 3 to 5 Euro an hour) which translated into Italian,  (or English) means breaking the b..ls of someone by phone to sell them services they haven’t requested.
Is this the future we want? To become telephonesalespersonnel?
Enough telephone vending. Enough getting up noses.

What are we doing? We export industries to China and we keep the Call Centres? But let’s do the contrary.
Biagi has become a martyr, a saint of the left used by the right, but this on its own is not a good reason for keeping a terrible law with his name.
I invite whoever has not already done so to tell their story in this new post that will be permanent with a marker on the right hand of the Blog.
Apart from sending an extract to the Party Secretaries (Have you noticed that no-one wants to talk about this law?), I will choose the most important testimonies and will make them available free as an online book with the title: “Modern Slaves”. I hope it will become a best seller.

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Money for all! Right here, right now and enough to live

If shops all around the world are full of items and billions of people cannot afford them:
a) there’s a lack of jobs
b) there’s a lack of items
c) there’s a lack of money

If restaurants are empty and throw away fridges full of food:
a) there’s a lack of hunger
b) there’s a lack of cooks
c) there isn’t enough money to haunt restaurants

If hundreds of thousands of doctors don’t have patients:
a) there are a few ill people
b) there are too many doctors
c) there isn’t enough money to afford treatments

Money for all! Right here, right now!

Enough money to live, have access to treatments, education, to travel and to have fun too!

www.free-people-world.com/1/ideas-proposals/actions/

Posted by: Giorgio Cavalli | March 23, 2006 03:45 PM


Beppe is an actor, but he would probably serve his Country much better as prime minister.
Maurizio from Chicago

Posted by: Maurizio Bocchetta | March 19, 2006 02:16 AM


Here's my story: I'm an English teacher with a B.A. in English and Italian. I moved to Italy, from Canada,to be with my then boyfriend, now husband. I immediately got a few job offers and accepted one at an international company based in Rome. Well, my first 3 contracts were all 11 month contracts with a 1 month break between them. Then, I got pregnant. Well, after returning from maternity leave (and they made it seem like I should have thanked my lucky stars even to have been called back, They were doing me a Great Favour after all! If that wasn't Mobbing, then I don't know what is.) my contracts were suddenly cut from 11 months at a time, to 5-6 month contracts. How is it possible that Italy, which was normally seen as the country with high family values and standards, could allow such things to happen?! I'm now scared to even think about getting pregnant again! I know that they won't take me back after a second maternity, and they've obviously started giving me these short contracts in light of that, this way they won't have to pay for my maternity leave. I've been working in this company for 4 years now, and I have nothing to show for it. I always used to joke around and say that moving to Italy was like moving 10 years back in time,but now when I say it, I mean it. Which is sad, because I think Italy has the potential to be a great country, unfortunately we let these Idiots govern us, these idiots who don't know what it's like to go to the bank and be rejected for a loan because you don't have a Full Time (Tempo Indeterminato) contract. These idiots who don't know what it's like to work your bum off for nothing, no gratification whatsoever, only more demands, and less security. I'd like to put someone who earns €1000 a month with a temporary or project contract in the government, someone who knows what it's like to live not knowing whether or not you'll have a job in the morning. In closing, I'd like to say, Grillo for President! :) You're the only light we have in this dark tunnel we're crossing. Forza Beppe!

Posted by: Daniela D'Uva | March 13, 2006 01:28 PM


Ciao Beppe,

scrivo questo post per condividere la mia storia perchè la ritengo indicata a descrivere il momento. Ho 36 anni, sono diplomato in elettronica e da 15 anni lavoro(o meglio lavoravo)come dipendente nel settore IT(information technology - quanto ci piace usare anglesismi oggi giorno). Fino allo scorso anno lavoravo come responsabile informatico(normale stipendio da impiegato) presso una multinazionale americana con sede in Italia. Contratto da impiegato T.I. con "qualcosina" di strano che nei moderni contratti è diventato piuttosto comune: gli straordinari ed i festivi per le aziende NON contano piu', se li SCONTANO automaticamente grazie ai fantastici FORFAIT(leggi = lavori ma non ti viene riconosciuto 1 cent di € in piu' in busta paga). Chi vuole lavorare con un minimo di prospettiva(visto il precariato generalizzato), accetta queste condizioni augurandosi di NON dover fare troppi straordinari o festività.. ma chi opera nel settore IT sa che le infrastrutture, gli apparati, le manutenzioni, i consolidamenti e le migrazioni si fanno quasi ESCLUSIVAMENTE a "bocce ferme".. e prova ad indovinare quando sono "ferme le bocce"?
Esatto, quando TUTTI gli altri NON lavorano e quindi a fine giornata lavorativa o durante le chiusure di calendario per festivita'(leggi = lavori le tue 8 ore ordinarie e poi ne fai altre TOT variabili, fuori orario che NON ti vengono riconosciute). Cosi' è stato per 6 anni(gli ultimi 6 almeno, ma non dimentichiamoci che faccio questo mestiere da quasi 15 anni). Bene, negli ultimi 2 anni, stanco di tutto cio'(ho richiesto alla mia direzione di procurarmi un aiuto) dopo varie insistenze come soluzione furono presi alcuni personaggi, un paio di co.co.co ed un libero professionista. Risultato: regolarmente liquidati ogni mese o due perchè visti come costi aggiuntivi insostenibili. Stanco di ascoltare dirigenti e managers INCAPACI di pianificare le strategie e in grado di organizzare il BUSINESS aziendale ma soltanto pretenziosi di risultati senza fornire gli STRUMENTI adeguati(mi è stato insegnato che fare impresa significa correre dei rischi e pianificare il ritorno degli investimenti: se si rifiutano a priori i rischi perchè visti soltanto come costi, si viene meno al concetto del fare impresa e di conseguenza alla ragione per cui si pagano i dirigenti e i managers in azienda). Ho quindi rassegnato le dimissioni e mi sono messo a fare l'imprenditore di me stesso: mi sono rimesso in gioco aggiornando le mie conoscenze, aggiornando le certificazioni NECESSARIE per lavorare nel settore e partecipando a corsi e seminari sulle varie nuove tecnologie del settore( leggi = ho investito soldi e tempo per riqualificarmi e tornare appetibile se non altro per le competenze). L'unico risultato prodotto ad oggi da questi sforzi, sono state delle collaborazioni saltuarie(co.co.pro) a condizioni che puoi ben immaginare, con orari uguali se non peggiori a quanto vissuto in precedenza. Siccome sono una persona pragmatica e confido nelle mie capacità, ho anche tentato la via del libero professionismo, offrendo consulenze ad aziende chiaramente in difficolta' a trovare VALIDE RISORSE(cosi' sono chiamati oggi i lavoratori qualificati e non: di piu', oggi siamo misurati in risorse nell'unità di tempo nei vari planning aziendali!!). Per il momento diciamo che "sopravvivo"(ho la "fortuna" di NON essere sposato, di NON avere figli a carico e di poter RISIEDERE ed ESERCITARE in una porzione di casa della mia famiglia). Io non vedo onestamente un futuro per i piu' o meno giovani in questo paese di vecchi con mentalità vecchia: vedo soltanto privilegi per le classi padronali e dirigenziali attuali(ma perchè i VECCHI dirigenti e/o proprietari di aziende non si fanno da parte una volta per tutte?). Oramai sono FUORI mercato, costano TROPPO alla società e producono soltanto DANNI e ARRETRATEZZA alle "loro" aziende. NON ce la fanno piu' a tenere dietro al mercato mondiale, all'innovazione ed alle nuove strategie globali.. la BARACCA è allo sfascio, NON se ne rendono conto? NON sarebbe ora di chiamarsi da parte, RITIRARSI a vita privata e fare POSTO ad altri piu' giovani ed ancora AFFAMATI di risultati?). E non vengano a dirmi che le generazioni sucessive NON hanno individui in grado di prendere il comando.. basterebbero un po' meno raccomandazioni o nepotismi(leggi = se tuo figlio/a è un testa di c...o passi l'azienda a qualcuno MERITEVOLE piuttosto che lasciarla MORIRE agonizzante). Io personalmente mi sono dato una scadenza: o vedo le cose cambiare entro max 6-12 mesi o davvero faccio la scelta di tanti altri e me ne vado all'estero..
Voglio proprio vederli i VECCHIACCI, domani che rimangono da soli con la loro demenza senile cosa combinano.. Ci sarà forse un futuro per le nuove generazioni di migranti future.. Ciao Michael Moore dei "poveri italiani".

Posted by: Marco Berselli | March 12, 2006 02:34 PM


Right, the higher is your education the lower is your appeal to Italian employers.
It is a matter of business acumen and numbers.
The first is linked to the fact that mama&papa firms in Italy do not shine for business acumen, therefore are their firms focused on low level jobs.
The second is a matter of costs. If you deliver high quality, because you are highly qualified and specialized you surely will be more expensive.... you can get your conclusions.

Btw guys,
What do you think about the French events in Paris?
Those French can really show what they think.
Can we import some of their proactive attitude?

Rgrds,

M.G.

Posted by: Maena Gambaiani | March 11, 2006 08:59 PM


Hallo everybody! I add my proof as a bilingual graduate out of work. I graduated back in 2003, studied in England as I had the chance to and as I could experiment the different type of education that I actually recommend to Italian university students which are burdened with hefty taxes. My degree is not in Philosophy I'm afraid, but is a B.Sc. (Hons) Horticulture obtained in partnership with one of the best universities in the UK, the University of Essex. That means something like "agronomia" or "agraria paesaggistica" in Italy. This has also been validated by the Italian consulate in London, that was kind enough to grant me an Italian "laurea di primo livello", which is not, as I hold 370 credits for my B.Sc. (Hons) against 180 credits of an Italian "laurea di primo livello" (see explanation on my blog: http://www.eurgarden.bravejournal.com/). This way, I cannot even take state examinations, nor become a public school teacher if I wanted to thanks to the Italian consulate, how nice of them! I am also bilingual in English and Italian and have dual nationality and the highest job offer I could get apparently is teaching English for private schools for a few hours a month and I am underpayed anyway. Unfortunately I also have a disability and this does not allow me to go back to work in England, where I have worked for a year with one of the most famous photographer of plants and gardens, building up excellent experience in this sector. I have also tried to work in a call-center, but I could not stand the pace of work and so I had to leave. My expertise as landscape planner and horticulturist should be highly regarded in Italy, but clearly, if you don't have the right connections and references or friendships, you are basically invisible. Apparently in our country the more qualified you are, the least you will be able to find job prospects. My mother's pupils, that teaches in a vocational school for plumbers and mechanics, can find employment as soon as they leave school. Will someone see me sooner or later? What do you think?

Posted by: Eurwen Trumper | March 11, 2006 12:56 AM


...in his own time, obviously!
;-)

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | March 10, 2006 02:21 PM


He can blow me.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | March 10, 2006 01:46 PM


Thank you, Prince, for your answer to Blisco jaio.
I have already discuss with him, two posts below.
He thinks he is a winner - like the banker son, remember you? - and other people are loser, because they aren't be able to find a good job like his job!

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | March 10, 2006 01:02 AM


Blisco Jaio
Obviously you are one of those people that thinks that when your belly is full everybody else does too.
I have a good job here in USA but not for this I have to forget about the needs of my fellow Italians.
The ignorance of people like you helps only to build a higher wall in between people in need and the others.
Perhaps you should take off the salami slices that are in your eyes and take a look around: younger people cannot find a good job because of this co.co.co. shit that looks like it's made from Dr. Josef Mengele.
If you don't know, Dr. Mengele was feeding his prisoners with sawdust mixed with food and then was surprised to find out that those prisoners were not performing their jobs: his thought was: "How come? We feed them and we give them a roof! I don't understand why they don't produce like they are supposed to!".
See, Blisco? Everything is in order according to one's point of view.
Everything else is just screwed up.
By the way: I'm writing this in my own time.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | March 9, 2006 11:46 PM


Ciao Beppe,

let me thank you for all the attention paid by you and all your staff, specially about daily problems treated like job/employement, environment, cost of life and how men and women in this country are disilluded by wrong politics taken in these years of "second republic"(Have you had notice that Italy back to monarchy before SHE turned into a new republic? Isn't it the same damn republic, based on same damn costitutional chart? I noticed just some "old" actors changed their party's "good" name into a "new"(recycled)one..isn't it? So why second republic? In what is it diferent from first one?). But this is not what I wonna report to your blog today so let's go ahead. My story is not so different from many others; I left my employment after 6 years of loyal service because tired of continuos and daily frustrations, promises and commitments regularly disattended, tired to listen managers and chieves pissed off and ready to any complaints because unknown decisions made by far boarding or property(tipical behaviour of corporative companies; today the job is here, tomorrow in India or China!!). I made the decision it was the right time for a break in my life carrier so I left. In the meantime I took this chance for re-qualify myself, taking classes in trainigs and certifications: I looked arround me seeking for alternatives for my future life. I have been in touch with no-profit societies, I had interviews with men-recruiters, companies(family as corporations)and many others issues.. "it's the perfect time for co.co.co or co.co.pro jobs" I thought in my mind.. the Biagi's law might give to people and companies more freedom, flexibility and consequently more choices and opportunities of choice. Unfortunately what happen in Italy is exactly the opposite. I only get asnwers like this:"who we need is someone skilled and qualified(better if certified)who is always available to rush to work everytime is called(no rules time), everywhere is needed and specially his reward must be lower is possible(in other words: same duties as employeed but paid less than full/part time contract.. and no rights regulamented by laws). This is why, once my re-qualification will be finished, I hope I can leave this country and find my way far from here.. good luck to you for next shows, Michael Moore of "poor italians".

Posted by: Marco Berselli | March 9, 2006 06:04 PM


Una testimonianza tra molte....sono un ing. aerospaziale (laureato a 25 anni 104/110); in Italia ho trovato solo un co.co.co con l'universita' a 780 euro al mese, persone magnifiche... prospettive per il futuro indecenti... in due anni ho spedito migliaia di C.V. e fatto un solo colloquio "spontaneo" ( leggi= senza calcio in c..o)... adesso sono in America, studio per un Ph D ( spese di studio pagate piu' stipendio mensile...=30-35mila dollari/anno) e ho prospettive ottime per il futuro... IO SONO STATO FORTUNATO....almeno in italia facevo qualcosa che mi piaceva e non il call center.....

Posted by: Raffaele Potami | March 9, 2006 05:55 PM


in Italy no one decides to have a baby anymore.

In the 2051 (less than 45 years) the italian population will decrease of 11 milions, fortunately partially balanced by 5 millions of foreigners.

From my point of view the Biagi law is co-responsable for this anthropological disaster.

Mo-BI-Li-Ta-Zio-Ne x Prodi future Italian Prime Minister

Posted by: Delfino * Dublino | March 9, 2006 05:37 PM


Guys no worries Mr. blisco jaio will help to introduce employers like Wal-Mart.

Wal-Mart insures fewer than half of its 1.3 million employees in the United States, and it has come under fierce criticism from those who say its benefits are skimpy… As of January 2005, Wal-Mart insured 45.8 percent of its workers. Today, it insures 46.2 percent, or about 615,000 out of 1.3 million. Over all, Wal-Mart said, 75 percent of its workers have some form of health insurance, either through Wal-Mart, a spouse or a previous job. The remaining 25 percent have no insurance.

Check out the full story

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/24/business/24walmart.html?ei=5070&en=77922aa60d606bce&ex=1142053200&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1141898634-aavItTkWFjVn/SLZWsAnOA

This sort of employer is not welcome in US any longer, but we will do our best to get in Italy ASAP. We know we are always 15 years behind US.

Dear blisco jaio I know I am going to break your heart now but do you know that most of the corporate in Europe offer to their employees

Free coffee
Free water
Free tea
Free sodas
Some have areas with pool tables, other with TVs
You can request a specific magazine if you need
Some have daily newspapers
Some offers chips and snacks

They can take breaks and gather together to talk.

Robe da non pensare, eh?

It is just Italy that still lives in 1800 and you know why, because as you said we have mama & papa businesses. Organizations not competitive at State or global level. They have no management or organizational background. They have a patriarchic conception of the work a sort of slavery idea as yours.
I wish to see my country to grow in terms of business, technology and management... one day.

Posted by: Maena Gambaiani | March 9, 2006 03:30 PM


Ciao Beppe, eccoti la nostra personale storia. Uguale a quella di tante altre persone, eppure quando la si vive sulla propria pelle diventa di una insopportabilita' unica.
Io e la mia ragazza ci siamo conosciuti in UK, dove io avevo un lavoro A TEMPO INDETERMINATO come ricercatore presso una ditta farmaceutica e la mia ragazza un dottorato di ricerca.
Per motivi familiari gravi siamo dovuti rientrare in Italia, ecco come: io ora ho un vergosnoso contratto co.co.pro presso questa compagnia biotech: condizioni precarie e niente pensione, ma almeno mi pagano. La mia ragazza lavora presso l'universita di Siena con borsa di studio che, da Settembre '05 che lei ha cominciato, le e' arrivata solo la settimana scorsa (Feb '06), e ovviamente non e' retroattiva, ma paga i suoi prossimi 6 mesi di lavoro a 1018 euro lordi al mese.
Tornare in Italia a queste condizioni e' la cosa piu' umiliante che ci abbiano costretto a fare, visto che entrambi siamo laureati, con >4 anni di esperienza all'estero dove in tutta onesta io penso di tornare al piu presto, sopratutto se il prossimo 9 aprile vince chi dico io. Ma questa e' un altra storia.
grazie e complimenti per lo spettacolo di Firenze, davvero bello
Giovanni

Posted by: Giovanni Benedetti | March 9, 2006 03:10 PM


Dear Blisco,

you must be either living outside italy, or you are some lucky person having a work with permanent contract. Unfortunately in Italy it is not easy to have a secure job even if you have the competence (degrees, masters etc.). What the fick are you saying? That all these peaple are useless and they deserve a co.co.co job for few months instead of investing in their future?
And moreover they are wasting their time either at home or at work using pc?
come one, we are all adult to believe to fairy tails....
What is your problem mate, beaten up in your childhood???

Posted by: ernesto gorla | March 9, 2006 02:58 PM


Dear Mr Grillo,

blisco jaio: |

I do not know what blisco jaio is ranting about. I am writing from my own computer in my own time!

I worked for an employer who never paid any wages. I have been four times to the Italian labour courts because my employer did not respect Italian laws/rules/regulations. She was absent for the court hearing. I had to have legal representation and that means high legal fees.

I have a sentence from the British courts because my employer is a UK national, a mother and daughter Company. The mother is the financier and UK resident. This means legal fees in UK as well.

My obnoxious employer respects no laws/rules/regulation. In order to have sum owed to me, I have to pay the courts fees to issue a Warrant of Execution (bailiffs can have the authority to take my employers home, business). Before this can be done I have to pay a private investigator to find my employer. I do not have the resources.

Most of the collaborators were women - 90%
Most were working mothers with children to take to school, Come home turn on the computer and start working – their profession - translation, some had further specialisation eg law, medicine, mechanical etc.
These women would be paid €10 for cartella and they depended on it.
This British employer would not pay her collaborators but would go on expensive holidays to Cannes, Petra –Jordan etc.

She is still carrying on her vile commercial activity and the Italian/UK and EU will take no action. There are so many individuals in the same situation.
I honestly cannot explain in such short text the dilemma of workers/employees.

One group wrote to Italian Foreign ministry and they refuse to help.
I wrote to British embassy in Rome and Italian embassy in UK. The Italian embassy replied saying that it was the responsibility of British embassy in Italy. The British embassy replied: it does not get involved in private matters!

Posted by: Marcia Visanji | March 9, 2006 02:52 PM


-------------------blisco sorry for the delay I could not access the site yesterday ------------

We know that the Italian average salary for a person holding a degree and with 6 years of working experience is 1,200€ gross per month. That’s just a shame. The rest of Europe gets at least double. Very true in US (where I lived, am traveling and working for American corporate) those people earning 1000 $ gross per month basically are starving. They earn what it is called the minimum wage salary; they have from 2 to 3 jobs and often no health insurance. Is this what you are suggesting us? No, thanks.
I never said who makes money is a thief. I meant very different. He is the Prime Minister of my country. He is representing Italian citizens. He is an institution. He is not like you and I sitting in a pub chit chatting. He has responsibilities and as the Leader of his movement he should have some program not pathetic stories.

I prefer not comment about the law being reins of horses; because it is self-evident you and I have a different conception of law and how to respect it.

Please try not to depict me as a communist-bolshevik Mrs. Gambaiani holds a degree, a master post degree and an MBA. She moved out of Italy to work for American corporations and she is pursuing a management career, BUT she has only one thing to say SLAVERY is over for a while, I hope someone informed you about that. If not I’ll break the news. SLAVERY IS OVER.
New management techniques teach us (not so new) that we’d rather prefer to have committed employees that work consciously 9 hours or 10 per day and take 1 hour to re-bounce, using their brain, than brainless people without interests or skills or attitudes.
Empty boxes, no useful to create business advantage for an organization.
There are no official rules inside corporation (at least American) that deny employees to use Internet. Management only asks the employees to use it FAIRLY and CONSCIOUSLY.
Those are management techniques, probably unknown in the 1800, but these days are pretty much common and well known especially in sectors where you need people with a brain.
Shall I carry on lecturing or do you think I made clear the concept? Because I love business and I can carry on forever with examples and other stuff.

You assume that if someone is not working he/she does not have a PC at home? Well, then better you guys buy one, get an Internet connection A.S.A.P. and instead of going to the pub start to read everything you can on the web. Blisco this was a sort of joke right?

Luckily I am between jobs having interviews (as I said for managerial positions) and in the meantime I look after my website and I do what I like most FEED MY HEAD.
Rgrds,
M.G.

Posted by: Maena Gambaiani | March 9, 2006 02:41 PM


I agree with some of your points, Blisco, including that some people waste their time at work to check blogs, emails,etc. But this happens everywhere, including Scotland where I live now (and things are better here with regard to work). Cococo should not be abolished because some small companies may really need people for short time. But companies should also be controlled to avoid abusing of Cococo. This happens quite often unfortunately. You might not like what I am saying. But in Italy the laws are made up by people who have the economical power. There is not interest to change the rules if companies loose money. It is logical. Grillo's blog is good because somehow people should express their feelings and describe how in Italy things are getting worse and worse. Do they look miserable to you? That's where Italy is going to. Unfortunately
Cheers

Posted by: Raffaele De Nicola | March 9, 2006 01:22 PM


I had co.co.co contracts all my young working life as a physiotherapist.I worked for 8 years and changed 10 work companies, because one day they call you and say "sorry, there is not enough work to keep you here, tomorrow you are out".In summer I worked as a "pony express" because for three months they keep you at home.No leave paid, no sick days paid, fully dependent behind an apparent mask of freelance.No regular work, no mortgage, no house to buy, impossible to rent alone.At 34years old still living with mum and dad.I left to Australia when I got my last sack. I've been living in Perth for two years.I have an independent life now.
Emanuela

Posted by: Emanuela Canini | March 9, 2006 10:18 AM


the idea fo the call center is a lighitng good idea, Beppe, you are a good person!

Posted by: house italy | March 9, 2006 09:37 AM


I wonder if this blog is made to rewrite a kitchy version of "The miserables" or really to help people.
You say:What are we doing? We export industries to China and we keep the Call Centres? But let’s do the contrary. Nice words to make a joke but is just a joke. What do you intend to do? To oblige companies to take a worker even if they don't need them? In Italy, goes away only multi-nationals. Italy is made by small companies, individual companies and family companies more than in any other countries.If somebody needs an help on saturday he has to take a worker for une year? And what else? The majority of the people that they are making complains here, they do that during the working hours. Two cases are possible:
-They don't have job but they have a computer and a lot of time to waste.
-They have a job and they use their time for private needs. And what they do? They are complaining about their salary and their company. They are complaining about democracy and freedom of expression. They are complaining about corrupted politicians and they are thinking that to say that, they have to be payed for...Yes, because to use the computer and the working hours for private needs is to steal money...Whoops, it's a wright to steal the company or the public administration where they work.
Soon there will be a strike for the right to be in your blog during the working hours.
Everything is possible in Italy. No doubts that your book will be interesting to read because it will be written by the companies through the hands of their personeel.

Posted by: blisco jaio | March 9, 2006 08:03 AM


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