Basta? Enough!

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This year I’ll have to do a bit of overtime and give a few shows around the world so that I can raise the spirits of Italians abroad. The world press (communist) (under the direction of the magistrates) continues to give the image of an Italy that is like a poverty-stricken ruffian.
Being nationalist doesn't solve the problem. They are right. They say things that we would be aware of, if it weren’t for the media control here. When will we be free of it? I feel that I’m carrying a weight on my back. I feel a leaden atmosphere around, it’s sickly, it imprisons thoughts, it’soppressive.
Basta! Enough!

It’s a sensation that overflows beyond the Alps and the Mediterranean. Even the other States have had enough.
Foreign newspapers from China to Portugal deride us.

The Economist (stalinistleninistmaoist and why not? also marxistgramscisttogliattistandboilingbabies) today has the title: Basta. Time to sack Berlusconi.

Here are a few passages:
”Berlusconi has devoted much time not only to changing the law to the benefit of himself and his friends but also to besmirching Italy’s prosecutors and judges, undermining the country’s entire judicial system. It is not surprising that tax evasion, illegal building and corruption all seem to have increased over the past five years. …
Directly or indirectly, Mr Berlusconi now wields power over 90% of Italy’s broadcast media, a situation that no serious democracy should tolerate….

The Berlusconi government has also undone much of the improvement to the public finances made by its predecessor: the budget deficit and the public debt, the world’s third biggest, are both rising once more….
Berlusconi has done little to press ahead with market liberalisation, with market privatisation, and with the promotion of competition in what is one of Europe’s most over regulated economies. …

Sadly most Italian people fail to recognise how sick their economy has become…”
People, here we have to choose between taking our country forward or dying. But who told you so? Well then?

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Dear politicians of Italy and rest of world , please give poor people not only beautiful words or (later on,after the elections ) silence or bad words,words like bullets to those who want to say,to write,as I am doing, only publishing in this website of blog (thanks Beppe Grillo ,best than nothing ).

Give the poor people the rights. Say the truth : are we poor people or not also POPOLO SOVRANO ( SOVRAN PEOPLE )? Accordind to the Italian constitution we all are and not only you!

Is it true or is it untrue ?

OK now we have voted for the progressists ,the side of those who suffers and are poor (this you saied ) come on now do not loose interest in the poor .Not you too0..

I have something to say to you and this is the opportunuity.Another I have not.

Please when you will be at the govern (if the centre right will allow you to be there or if some other thing of bad does not happen:I hope it will not happen. I love the poor people , I am a poet from the ourskirt,from the working class area of Casal Bruciato,from Tiburtino Terzo working a class area of Rome ).
Ok just if you will be governing , please do not fight one against the other of same centre-left , Show people you REALLY are different from Silvio Berlusconi and his alleys Giuanfranco Fini and Umberto Bossi the leaders from the centro-destra.We poor people do not want to repeatThe bad experience of the insulting the people (there are many ways to insult..), please help the poor people not to be poor people animore,not so very much at least becouse we can not any more survive.

Cut all tye prices (make a price list ,prezzario, by low to be respected by the order forces.If they make the price increased put them in a prison and pay a lot ammount of money. They get richer more and more,we become poorer more and more. Give back our dignity to us the poor, make ir better more and more.

Yes I feel indignited,and I
do not want to beg for a rightto be received in a very respecting way,

In a sistem where :
a poor ,honest person has to feel shame for himself or herself ,unrightly,but psycologically so it happens, for own honesty,WONDERFUL FEELING BUT NOT BEING CONSIDERED WONDERFUL ANYMORE IN A SISTEM WHERE ONLY THE RICH PEOPLE ARE CONSIDERED BEING RESPECTABLE (EVEN WHEN THE ARE ROBBERS, ETCETERA);

and the honest,poor people (ok not all the poors are also honest and innocent,but most of us honest and innocent are (I am,for example,and like me there are really very many,

Yet I have to think guilty near my children ?Shaòll I take them living abroad as emigrants,to suffer even more there because here with my salary (before, and bad pension now we as a family can not survive ?

How to resist the economic,social badly predicament where from lomng :before the fascism,during the fascism,in the so Democristana and their allied era,until now ,we wre and are still taken...

I speak for myself :shall I feel guilty ,as being myself to be considered guilty for my honesty who does not allow me and my family to live decentely having only my pension which means almost nothing towards the ioncreasing of prices ?

It is too much fo me paying the monthly rent to E.N.P.A.F for a tiny,too tiny and badly constructed ,badly realized flat (one room only and very small) in a very badly realized building ( now they have also insalled near three ,one closed to another, mobile telephone " antenne"without asking the residents there in their flats ? Mobile telephone "antenne" ,probable sinonomus of cancer ,leucemia,etcetera.

Conclusian : I am a disable, I worked all mny working time in a ministery having in it mobbing,bullism,and a bad salary. Now I am in pensio,my pension is very little, it was before and now it has becomeeven poor pension in contront to the increade cost of life.

Should I become a criminal?Should I go to crime for arriving end of month ?

Why the responsable of these things are never to pay for they crimes and we have to go to prison of if we are forced to crime ?

Yet I do not want to crime. And I feel doubly i fault towanrdsmy chiòldren my family for not being able to protect them against cost of life,lack of a decent " casa popolare " :pubblic homes,apartaments of houses for the por people.

I did not have anything in change ofmy honesty and my poetry and my time of live which will not returnany more.

Maybe you leader of politic partys should becomer poor too to undrerstand really what all this mkeans.

In Italy and in every other Cpountry. Six month a year as poor people will helpè you to have better conscience on what poverty really means.

Who has this cougare of you all there ? Come on !

For sure this will help democracy.You will be able to have better possibility after mortal life to enter the paradise.

You and those like you..

But this is a mith. You will never become so wondeful. Show me in doing good if I am wrong.I wish to be wrong in this.

Why shall the social and environament responsable of degrade and lack of respect to us have not be put in a prison for these sort of crimes and pay us the demage they caused anbd are still causing ?

If they are not ,psycologically this happens,the poor people feel responsable for their (mine and the others) children and partner poverty, to be needy in asistem like this (where everything costs too much and no respect are shown am dived to us wherever we stay and werever we go )doe it mean better never to be born ? Never to have children ?

If inItaly no children or too few children are seen on the roads ,parents are frightned to make babies, if to be born or to make babies means to make parensts to be resposable of poiverty,of social degrade towards themselves and their children,it is the same to consider the situia
born a fault, that we have to feel guilty parents because with our salaries and pensios as poor people to be so badly payed, near our children,neat our partners,to be loosers in a sociaty of winners who have EVERYTHING AND EVEN MORE,

being almost a faul, to make poor ,and innocent,poor people feel as if we are guilty because our honesty means not to be able to earn enought to live ourselves and our families, ,to be pooer aND NOW EVEN MORE POORER WE HAVE BECOME FOR THE INCREASING OF PRICES,IN iTALY,
(we are many,millions of poor people )

like me or him or her )too poor for not to protest agains has to feel ashemed near his\her children

let the commercianti to respect the prices
We are tired of politic of words ! We do not want to repeat endless the uncortable for the poor peole situation.It is a predicament situation.

Thank you!

I hope at last something good
will come from the centre-left,in Italy.

Lçet us missbehave those among the poor people in the outskirt of Rome who say they are cooperative and associations and only get proficts for themselves and they say the are from the left,they are not,they are teasing people and demaging the immage of the partyes from left, from centreleft.

At Casal Bruciato working class area ,in Rome,at the park of Cervelletta, ..

My good Lord , what does is mean some people having made even smaller now the already tiny space fro poor peple all, of the vital space ?

and prices are the same of things ate the bar or at their reastorant ?

Who did give them the permission of doing all they want in the space there and the saved from degrade construction ?

Why the secrete vote in the Italian parliament ? The secret vote is not a real democratic expression , It should not exist in a real democracy.

What is it ? Are you not ashemed of thesecret vote ?We want to see in face who they are those of you who say yes and secretely vote no!

Beware of the "franchi-tiratori"? And how is this possible in a sistem like this ?
I do not understand this, nobody undrstand in a real parliament democracy,according to me at lest, sorry, these sort of things should not exist at all . Isn't it ?

Another thing I can not understand is the "immunità parlamentare" The not penality of the parliament politicians to be judged not by a normal court as the other people who are not parlamentari(memmbers of the parliament),according to me in a REAL DEMOCRACY it should not exist .

In a good and REAL democracy, we all are the same for the low.

Why the politicians in the parliament can not be judged in a court like all the other people ? It is terrible,it makes me trumble.I am afraid of these things.

< Also getting the rich salaries ("gold" salaries) and rich pensions ("gold" pensions )- you take them ,politicians ,is an unjustice thing compairing the poor salaries and the poor pensions to thye common people,iff they are ever given.However come on do you not thing really these things are right ,are Honest,are democratic ?

The differences are too much,to be called democratic!

They are too rich salaries and pensions compairing those ones to the common people receiving poor salaryes and the poor pensions .

And no help (or it is too little, a solt of begging-help , are given to the poor people , to the unamployers ,in matter of a respecting people "casa pololare" (how many are we who can neither pay a rent for a private horrible apartament or house neither in cities nor in othe places ?

How many people are we suffering for social,and not only social but also environamental degrade and so on ,suffering for any kind of unjustice ?

The working class areas of Rome are horribly built ( the DEMOCRAZIA CRISTIANA in this was worst than the fascists in buinding horrible blocks from PORTONACCIO,in Rome,to SETTECAMINI ,etcetera.Shame on they all !

Politicians and "pubblici amministratori" of Rome and every other place in Rome and reast of world, in decoratic time,not for being absent living amoung the poor ,the needy, those who are left from you withour dignity and respect : included myself,yes indeed,we voted and who knows later..(are we going to vote again ...Shall we have still the wanting to vote ?..? It is up you the responsablity of these things..)

THE outskirt of Rome and other cities ,and not only the citys are involved in these writing thoughts , have buidings and blocks and roads worst than in a cimitery realized :for the not considered by you worth while to be considered human beings? Is this a sort of Italian aparteid ?.

What sort of shameless face do you have to ask the poor again and afgain,uselessly, to vote for you ?

You did nothing in the past (half a century classism-racism expressed in your politic lies and continuing degrade examples).
We poor people do not to want to beg for having rights to be worth while to be considering real decent rights :the apartament or a home,to be well built; to have the clean and respected environament, to have the prices to be less our possibilities to live by our own poor salaries and pensions.

Please stop the price to be over our poor people!We all all are to be considered poor ,if we can not live with our salaries and the pensions,we arte poor:

Stop prices ! Make a "prezzario" to be made for low and by the lows of the states,to help poor people to live and not survive or die pecause they can not pay,because they need and can not have an apartament or a house (to be a decent apartament or house) ! Come on ! Not only you haveto live so very good life ! We are in a democracy and we want it to be real democracy IN PRACTTICE also forus,not only for you as a class !

Blieve me,wr are own mind and can think: Do not overvalue yourselves and do not douwnestimate ourselves ! We are intelligent and alive ,we do not belong to you. We ALL (also you) are to be considered being SOVRAN PEOPLE (it is the Italian Constitutions who clearly want the people ALL to be sovran and not only the politic,burocratic, pubblic-administrative,economic and "imprenditorial" (sorry I donot have a dictionary here now at an Internet point in order to check how to render correctly into English the Italian word imprenditoriale,
Please check it in your dictionary if you have one).

Respect the poor people,help us not to be poor anymore or let us all(you included and the priests,etcetera) to be all poor the same level, help us to be SOVRAN too.And not only you ...!

More than half century of strange democracy we want being a very good,civil and respectable democracy. WE LOve DEMOCRACY WHEN IT IS DEMOCRACY REALLY FOR EVERYONE. Give the poor people the rights which still they are not given yet. It does not mean to be bad person to ask for the rights.It mens to be good.

My God,Our good Lord, we have to be careful not to speak too much or they sayu that we are bad people or sort of terrorists,I am not ! Do not bring to a prison (in Italy or abroad),do not kill me for being a poet of truth and peace
(to be real truth and peace , rights,not only words ,this I want. And not only for my self I want..not only in theory)

Posted by: Vladimiro Rinaldi Runuzzi | May 2, 2006 02:52 PM


Perhaps Mr Berlusconi was not a God-send, BUT, Prodi managed to run 2 businesses into the ground, his party does nothing more than castigte and castrate the middle class and punish with heavier taxes. There is no incentive for the entrpreneur in Italy whatsoever. You might was well turn the clock back to pre-liberation Romania where eveyone got $40.00/month whether they worked or not.
Mr B is criticized for his ownerhsip in media companies, yet it is pradoxical- but Oh So Italian- that the state run media giant RAI requires is subsidized by the state ( make that the peopl pay the bill) and yet also accepts advertising. Maybe RAI shold be cut from its -mother-tether and left to its own devices- either sink or swim in the real world.

In a country where no one can agree which hand to wipe their noses with and government takes forever to even try to govern because of the factionaliozation are people so stupid to believe that Prodi will get any more things done than Mr B. His win was not a mandate- it actually creates an enviornment for more chaos.

Posted by: vic raimo | April 18, 2006 02:14 PM


Let all politicians,burocrats,richest, racists, classaist peole (classism is a sort of racism ) and all arrogant ,mass media people and cruel and selfish over the top people live like homeless and those who have nothing or have too little to spend a decent life and their familiey live a good,decend life too.

Six month a year (of every year ) living like homneless eople and poor pensioners and unamployers without social security as it is in Italy.

Without any sort of help.

This kind of good school for the politicians and the others same class who ignore everything in practice,in alive, of what really means to be a poor,a needy,lots of poor people and needy,will help them to understand really whtat this means.

After six months of poor life really they will get better conscience and (just because they do not want at all to return being poor after thyer other six months as having very good salary as politicians (six per six months) all problems will solved for the poors and at last real justice,real democracy,real socialism ,real christianity,etcetra will become true.

Words are words ,sacrificies are sacrificies.Only in own suffering man learn better what suffering meams.

And to live without a proper decend house,without decent rights,dithout real justice is suffering.Politicians do not know what all these things really mean.They have not them.They have good salaries and very good pensions and a lot of promises-lies for the needy-electors during the elections.

May this this is but a dream,one of the many of a poet,of a poor,of a needy and as an elector-poor.

Vladimiro Rinaldi

globalpax2006@yahoo.it

Posted by: Vladimiro Rinaldi | April 11, 2006 11:35 AM


Let all politicians,burocrats,richest, racists, classaist peole (classism is a sort of racism ) and all arrogant ,mass media people and cruel and selfish over the top people live like homeless and those who have nothing or have too little to spend a decent life and their familiey live a good,decend life too.

Six month a year (of every year ) living like homneless eople and poor pensioners and unamployers without social security as it is in Italy.

Without any sort of help.

This kind of good school for the politicians and the others same class who ignore everything in practice,in alive, of what really means to be a poor,a needy,lots of poor people and needy,will help them to understand really whtat this means.

After six months of poor life really they will get better conscience and (just because they do not want at all to return being poor after thyer other six months as having very good salary as politicians (six per six months) all problems will solved for the poors and at last real justice,real democracy,real socialism ,real christianity,etcetra will become true.

Words are words ,sacrificies are sacrificies.Only in own suffering man learn better what suffering meams.

And to live without a proper decend house,without decent rights,dithout real justice is suffering.Politicians do not know what all these things really mean.They have not them.They have good salaries and very good pensions and a lot of promises-lies for the needy-electors during the elections.

May this this is but a dream,one of the many of a poet,of a poor,of a needy and as an elector-poor.

Vladimiro Rinaldi

globalpax2006@yahoo.it

Posted by: Vladimiro Rinaldi | April 11, 2006 11:34 AM


Done, just about!! Thanks to us Itlians abroad Italy can now be led by Prodi to a change...Italy out of Iraq to start with!!

Posted by: Andrea Marongiu | April 11, 2006 10:35 AM


YES!!!! Acording to the exit poll we (centre left) are winning!
go on, we can make it!!
Forza SINISTRA, VIVA I COGLIONI D'ITALIA!!

Posted by: Andrea Marongiu | April 10, 2006 03:21 PM


After sending my vote, I had the chance to see Viva Zapatero. Superb. But, on my way home, I wondered if my vote could really change things.
I finally decide it could, under one condition. Any new Italian government mast give "Satira" a chance. Both sides, no probems.
Why? Because satira represents the "voice" of the people and no politician can administer a nation without listening to people, not even if he/she has been elected.

Beppe: would this be possible?
Betty

Posted by: Elisabetta Padovan | April 9, 2006 06:02 PM


I really hope that Berlusconi is finally kicked out. He has been an embarrassment to Italy and to Europe for far too long. What I don't understand is why the polls say that the election is so close. Who are all these people that are voting for for this cafone?
Even the people who were gullible enough to vote for him the last time seem to be fed up with him.

Posted by: Davide Simonetti | April 9, 2006 11:23 AM


Blisco: I read your (very long) comment carefully.
Even if I don't understand very much about invoices, it seems you are right!
There are a lot of (seeming) inconsequences in our tax system, nobody is worrying about , but the after-effect of them can be very serious.
You say, voting is not enough, I agree with you, we must also share ideas and try to di something to change this system, but, you know, tomorrow is election day, let's begin from here!
:-)

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | April 9, 2006 02:07 AM


Buona fortuna, Italia la bellissima - tocca ferro per oggi e domani. If all Italians would feel some responsibility for their country, everything would be fine. But I fear that the whole western world is gripped by a culture of "I know my rights; I just don't know anything about responsibilities !" - certainly, that's what Australia's current government has introduced here. Stand up, Italians, and tell the man with the constantly new face and the constantly old ways that you have no respect for him: even if you think Prodi is dull, isn't he worthy of respect ...?

Posted by: Margaret-Rose STRINGER | April 9, 2006 12:19 AM


I really,really hope that the Italians don't turn up to be as stupid
as the americans and vote for the "dwarf" yet again......
This situation is awfully similar to the american elections (Bush vs Kerry) were people didn't like Bush but they still voted for him because they thought that the opposition (kerry) was "weak" and
had "no balls"..
Now in America we've got to the point where it doesn't matter who will win the next elections because the damage caused by
Bush to the country (and other countries -see iraq...) and to the world opinion (of USA foreign policyes) is SOOO BIG that nor the Democrsts or the Republicans can fix in our lifetime.
In Italy now we all know what Berlusconi did ( or more precisely
what he DIDN'T do...) and even the cats and dogs wouldn't eat from his hands anymore.
It should be very clear now that the only alternative, is the left ,and even if many people are disillusioned by it too, it's unfortunately all we have and since we've all had a good taste of Berlusconi & company for a while now it certainly wont hurt to give it a try ( it can't get worst than it is anyway ...hehehe ).
In other words : WE'VE ALREDY TOUCHED THE BOTTOM.......
let's see if the left can give as even a little push up twards the LIGHT !
peace. shanti and salaam to all

Posted by: zeb visini | April 8, 2006 10:47 PM



Poor Bear, I would want, if it would be just one, I would want to be the last one to say to hang him but with all this campaign, I think that if he doesn't hang him self it will be a miracle. Did you see how is becoming mad?
I really think that there is no one able to govern the country but what to do with him? It would be nice if foreigners could be elected and I hope that, with the Europe, it will be possible one day. I'm not against anyone and I can even take the defense of anybody if I think he is right for just one little reason that I like and so I did it here sometimes. As I'm convinced that in any country, is good to change the regime from time to time, I think it's time to do it even if I think we are going back instead of going where we have to go.
Now a special point:I was surprised to read in the Bear’s list of reforms that one point was dedicated to the payment of invoices.
Since more than 10 years now, when I have a moment, I used to send a letter to a minister or a newspaper asking to make a law or to promote a law, a real simple law which states definitely and clearly that invoices can not be deduct since they are not duly payed.
A lot of them never answered to me or answered to tell me that it was a good idea but not realizable for different reasons like for example the financial minister of Belgium who said to me that this is depending of European commission...Well, Bear did not say to me thanks for the idea that I sent to him some years ago by mail but it was added in his last reformes list. OK, better like this than nothing. Pity that he will be not elected maybe by my fault as I chosed to distribute my votes for my virtual friends of this blog instead of supporting my own idea. Funny isn't it?
In exchange, it would be nice if you will send a letter to your prefered ones asking the same but I'm afraid somebody will answer to you since nobody use to adopt a project which was suggested by the opposition...
Anyway, I will go on until I will be retired if necessary.
Just think: Somebody buys something to somebody else and asks an invoice which he will not pay. As he can deduct the invoice and the VAT, he is pushed to buy a lot without paying. On the other hand, the one who sells, first he has to pay a lawyer to recover his money and second he will be taxed for the goods for which he didn't had the payment.
You are thinking that you are not concerned about invoices and that there is no reason to change something for few private examples a year?
But do you know who is the first abuser in this field?
The governments! Infact, you noticed that taxes has to be duly payed in time but it is not the same for people who has to be repayed. On the other hand, invoicing to an administration means that you have to wait the payment some months and that's the reason why, some small companies fall down in bankruptcy in the mean time...With all the workers.
So what? If we have to limit ourselves to vote, just to vote for one instead of another it's not enough anymore. Politicians shows to us that they are just there to answer to paparazzi what paparazzi want to listen. Lets say to them what they have to do instead of what they have to say.
I heard around here that if somebody has something he has to share it with people who doesnt have anything. If we share ideas it will be not bad too.

Posted by: blisco jajo | April 8, 2006 04:26 PM


quite right so!! enough is enough...let's try to make Italy again and Italians perhaps?! We are the shame of Europe, and we are lucky to be still part of the EU since thanks to 'Silvio the joker' some of the fundamental Copenhaen Criteria's point have been breached for years now: DEMOCRACY, RULE OF LAW, HUMAN RIGHTS AND RESPECT AND PROTECTION FOR MINORITIES (i.e. Homosexuals, Emigrants and so forth)!!

Andrea Marongiu
FREE ITALY!!

Posted by: Andrea Marongiu | April 8, 2006 04:06 PM


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