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Ucoii, {l’Unione delle comunità islamiche in Italia = Union of Islamic Communities in Italy}, has paid for the publishing of a page in a few daily newspapers. It has compared Israel to Nazi Germany.

Bombing the Lebanon has been a serious error that has hit civilians and has created thousands of new terrorists from nothing. But Hitler was another thing.

The death comparisons made by Ucoii: Marzabotto massacre equals Gaza, Fosse Ardeatine {Ardeatine Massacre} equals the Lebanon cannot be proposed. Many Jews, from within and outside Israel have attacked Israel’s policy in the Lebanon. However no authoritative Islamic voice has expressed opposition to the declared wish of Hezbollah to eliminate the State of Israel.

Ucoii is not to blame. They have written what they think. But what they think is not publishable. The newspapers that have permitted this should be had up for receiving money to instigate racial hatred, the great alibi of multiculturalism.

No Italian newspaper wanted to publish the list of those in Parliament who had definitely been convicted.
I had to go abroad to the Herald Tribune. No Italian newspaper wanted to publish the list of the sponsors of the National football team with a boycott invitation.

If you don’t touch the politicians and economic interests, you can publish everything. It’s true, there have been a few exceptions with the wiretaps. These have shown that everyone’s OK for wrongdoing. Banks, political parties, companies, newspapers.
But the new government has sorted out this democratic anomaly with the law on wiretapping. A law that sets down severe penalties for publishers and journalists who publish intercepted conversations.

I’ve got a feeling that the previous government is still in power and that the dirty work (pardon, wiretapping) is being done by ghost writers. But perhaps the name is still the same: Letta the first {Gianni Letta} and Letta the second {Enrico Letta}. A dynasty.

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Fabiano, you have just hit the focal point of the question.
In our Western world we can still wear, say, eat, drink what we want while in the countries where Islam rules, lack information and respect for individuality.
The PLO got a lot of money from everybody and if they were smart as they thought, their people would be in another shape today.
I also want to add this: my father's family was from Istria which, after WWII went to Jugoslavia. When this happened a lot of families left because they were not welcomed there anymore, went to Italy and many other countries and totally rebuilt their life.
What did we have to do, go to Jugoslavia and blow ourselves up?

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | September 5, 2006 12:21 AM


To Marcia Visanji,

I read the comments you wrote on this blog on various topics, and I asked myself some question:

1) To you hate the Jews...if yes, can you tell us if there is a personal reason for that?
2) Are you muslim, if yes, are you praticising this religion?

I ask this questions, so maybe I can better understand some point of views you have done on this blog.

Concerning question 1), I have to add that a Jew is not a Jew, I think that every person is different, think different and should not be put in a global class, that is a big mistake...

You write at a certain point: "Neither do the Muslims like European states interfering in their land and making their lives intolerable and miserable. The European government that is stealing Islamic resources and butchering the Islamic people."
What to you mean by islamic people?
Is for you every islamic country in the same position?

Dear Marcia, to you forget that the European community had given a lot of money to the Palestinians? Do you thing this countries deserve this comments?

And think about democracy in some islamic countries versus the democracy in the European countries...?
As an example, in my country (Luxembourg) there are islamic churches and you can wear things as you like.
>< Can I go to Saudi Arabia and built there a catholic church?
Can a girl go to Iran (Teheran) and wear only a T-shirt and a jeans?
So, don't you think european countries are more democratic and tolerant than some islamic countries are? And where is the reciprocity?

Fabiano

Posted by: tavan fabiano | September 1, 2006 06:09 PM


I feel sorry for people like Marcia Visanji when they use this blog as a tool to let out their inner anger and unhappiness which makes them blind.
What is it Marcia ? Is it Italy or is it the cause which pushed you to live your Homeland ?


“Neither do the Muslims like European states interfering in their land and making their lives intolerable and miserable. The European government that is stealing Islamic resources and butchering the Islamic people”.
Really ??? If true, guess who allowed all this happening if not RICH MUSLIM PEOPLE in their own homeland ??? Who in turn have big shares in Western based Companies ???

“Ask the Moldavians working on construction sites and they will tell you horrific stories, ask the Philippinoes, the Poles, the Russians……each will recount horrific tales of brutality” …. Stop ??? why not including women in Somalia where the application of Sharia laws sees the death penalty, lapidated for committing adultery ??

Do you want to hear from Marcia ? Just have a point of view which does not support Muslim or Jewish actions and …. Et voila’, here she is ! All her inner happiness and loving kindness will spread like the blossoming of a flower through her colorful language :)
Marcia, if you are one of those people who sees the world just as one side of a medal, then I think your anger and unhappiness will last long but long time. You might want Joselle Camilleri to ask muslim mothers and see how many of them are happy to see their sons blowing up in the same way you might ask yourself how many of the total foreign laborers in Italy end up in hospitals compared to those who live a normal life.

“if you do not like the package you find here, go elsewhere, or go back. And this is not being racist,”. I agree 100% with Joselle because I’ve applied to myself. 6 years spent in London working long lasting and wearing hours with a wage that was simply peanuts. Top job vacancies reserved only to English native speakers (‘course this was not mentioned but everybody knew it, even the walls) and mostly the people filling such positions knew a little bit more than an Italian waiter. I did not like it ? Nobody was keeping me there. It was my choice.

Italians are paid more in Italy compared to foreigners doing the same job ? POOR STUPID Italians if they still have the same positions as the foreigners in their own Country ! They should just take a 2 hours flight and have a look in England and learn how to make up few good tricks.

Do not get me wrong Marcia, i sympathize with foreigners more than what you might think but, more than anything, I sympathize with everybody, no matter the race, gender, religion, colour of the skin, age and whatever. The name of my religion is not islam or christanity but Freedom, Respect, Tolerance, Compassion, Education. The name of my enemies? Hatred, Ignorance, Intolerance, Gossiping and Bullying (that’s why I gave up reading the Italian version of this blog).

As a foreigner myself in my host Country, I have my downs as well but I would never think of going in someone else’s blog of my host Country and writing as if splitting in the plate where I am eating from that is exactly what you’re doing!

Posted by: Cristina Ekipaser | September 1, 2006 02:36 PM


Well, I had the sentor about this sort of things some years ago. Yes, it really seems a Berlusconi3 government; admitting that Italy leis in this status it's depressing and that is an euphemism...

Posted by: Frank Parignani | August 30, 2006 01:29 AM


Of course! forever and ever!;)))))))

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 29, 2006 02:04 PM


Picky! :)))

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 29, 2006 01:42 PM


From now on, I will prepare my sandwiches by myself!
:-)

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 29, 2006 12:51 AM


That' grooooooooossss!I worked in the kitchen,nothing to do with the public,or pain in the ass customer:-)))))))))

Posted by: evakulnura | August 29, 2006 12:14 AM


This sandwich has a secret inngredient which can go an any type of sandwich ordered.

Step 1) You look in the pub/restaurant where you work as cook/kitched helper

Step 2) You notice that somebody you despise is inside

Step 3) You take the order form the table where that person sits

Step 4) You pass the order in the kitchen

Step 5) You let the cook prepare the order, paying attention to not lose your aim to the sandwich which was ordered by that person

Step 6) When everything is ready, you put everything on your tray

Step 7) Before exiting the kitchen you open the sandwich that belongs to that person and you spit in it with all the phlegm you can gather

Step 8) You serve the sandwich to the table with a big smile.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 28, 2006 02:02 PM


I prefer to ignore it! ;-)))))))))

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 28, 2006 10:54 AM


not idea what you are talking about?!! special sandwich ?,what's that??, like to know ,my use in the future:-))))))

Posted by: evakulnurae | August 28, 2006 08:22 AM


So, Eva, you know the secret ingredient for the "special sandwich" which gets served to people you don't usually like....

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 28, 2006 04:48 AM


I use to cook in restaurants,I can write a book like the one "kitchen confidential":-)))))))

Posted by: evakulnura | August 28, 2006 12:23 AM


You was a kitchen-helper? I didn't know it!
I can imagine the poor guests, if they had any complaint about the service... ;-)

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 27, 2006 08:15 PM


I've been a kitchen-helper in a pub years ago and I tell you: nobody used to argue about food, specially with me.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 27, 2006 07:56 PM


By the way, never, never argue with a waiter if the food is too cold or the wine is not to your likings. A friend of mine who worked in a restaurant told me what happened when these foods and drinks went back to the kitchen to be ameliorated. I'm sure you don't want to know :-((((

Posted by: Enrico Rossi | August 27, 2006 07:50 PM


Oh! My memory doesn't serve me right! ;-)

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 27, 2006 06:12 PM


Wrong: it was a jar of cranberry juice.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 27, 2006 05:55 PM


Yes, I remember yet!And was not a glass water but a glass orange juce (to hide the colour!!!)
;-)))))

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 27, 2006 05:39 PM


Oh, I know that guy too!
But it was not his boss, it was his colleague who was trying to mob him.......

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 27, 2006 05:19 PM


Prince: I know! They are so cowardly that they haven't the courage (and the balls) to put their real name under their comments (like me, you and a few others). I'm sure they look like Fantozzi in real life, always frightening of their boss and saying yes sir to everybody.
PS)instaed pissing in water reservoirs, I know somebody (!) who was pissing in his dumb boss's glass...I find it more equitable, and you? ;-))))))
Enrico: very good maxim! I like Peter Ustinov very much!

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 27, 2006 04:36 PM


Enrico: I never heard before this Ustinov's maxim, I will remember it for the future.

Raf: As we discussed years ago, when these morons that are attacking everything and anybody are met face to face, they are quiet like if they took some Valium and don't have the balls to voice their opinions because first, they don't have any opinion and second, they are cowards that are screaming blood only when protected by a modem and a keyboard.
You don't even want to kick their asses because is like shooting on the red cross or beating a 3 year old kid.
All they do is disrupting the discussions and imposing their non-information on the now few ones that are trying to understand the mechanism of the problem that generated the post.

And, regarding what they eat and drink, I think somebody is pissing in the municipal water reservoirs and is coercing pigs and cows into watching Emilio Fede.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 27, 2006 03:50 PM


Raffaella, many Sites are moderated and work very well. The small downside is the time delay you encounter, but on the other end you weed-out all the loonies that in years past were institutionalized in mental hospitals and are now voicing their idiocies on the web.
On a different note, I just came across Peter Ustinov's brilliant maxim: "Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is the terrorism of the rich."

Posted by: Enrico Rossi | August 27, 2006 03:05 PM


Guys: the reason because on the other side is going on so messy is that there are too much people who only want to disturb, without say anithing reasonnable.
I 'm personally often under attack (and many others too, and most of them are women)from every kind of trolls who are offending because they don't agree with our opionions, or only because they can't accept to face with an intelligent woman.
The new fad is cloning.
This morons write down their craps signed with other people's name or nickname.
Nobody can be sure who's talking with.
As Prince said, many pepole on the other side, (including me) are trying to convince Beppe to put a password that at least will prevent this cloning!

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 27, 2006 12:41 PM


or could that be,thid fast food diet,that everybody is eating?full of coloring,preservatives,weird kind of fats,that keep food on the shelves forewer,I know for a fact that if my kids,eat the above,they turn into monsters,and how about all those people with dementia at 30 or 40 years old?would all this crap that we eat nowdays actually,creates aggressive country? this was off topic,but food for though,ciao :-))) by the way I like our 4 cats group too :-)))))))

Posted by: evakulnura | August 27, 2006 04:16 AM


OK, so instead of the English Blog we can call it The Four Cat Blog.....But honestly how can anybody make sense of the Italian Blog's cacophony ? Like Eva said, the Italian water must be the culprit!

Posted by: Enrico Rossi | August 27, 2006 03:37 AM


I write my comments here and on the italian side of the blog.
I started on the italian side, one year ago, and a few months later I discovered by chance this english side. I was at once very enthusiastic about it.
Obviously, as The Prince says, here we are 4 cats, and that makes it easier to discuss without any disturbing persons. I enjoy it very much.
I don't refuse the hard confrontation, and because of this I'll go on writing on the italian side, but I'm at my ease here!

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 27, 2006 03:26 AM


OFF TOPIC

I saw yesterday the australian movie documentary " Kenny", it is hilarious,a real story,worth every penny! ciao :-))))))))))))

Posted by: evakulnura | August 27, 2006 03:08 AM


Enrico e Prince I share the same feeling about the italian side,and then we wonder why the country is in the mess it is,what are putting in the water that this people are drinking?

Posted by: evakulnura | August 27, 2006 12:07 AM


Enrico:
For that reason I don't go to the italian side.
It's impossible to start a discussion because every kind of moron disrupts any chance of doing so.
Let alone the left/right discussions which are going beyond any topic.
I think that soon something will happen, like new rules and passwords for anybody that wants to post.
As we say in Italy, here we are in 4 cats and more or less we can contain ourselves.

Let's see what happens next....

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 26, 2006 07:57 PM


Has any of you visited Grillo's Italian Blog? 90% of participants would amply qualify for a Lunatic Asylum. Unless the Site is moderated these morons will eventually destroy Beppe's Blog with all the inanities they are writing. Beppe, time to take action, don't fall asleep at the switch!

Posted by: Enrico Rossi | August 26, 2006 07:51 PM


Noel, I agree with you.
The chance that the popular will would change something at this point is one to a million and will increase within the years.
The only thing that will change something will be implemented only when the shit will hit the fan.

As far as British coal mines, we can reopen one of them just for Lolita.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 26, 2006 06:57 PM


Raffaella, I understand your point, but I don't think it serves us well to focus too much on the methods used to attempt genocide, but rather on the human suffering resulting from it. In references to the nazi attempts at genocide, I have heard people say that they hope it never happens again, and I am left wondering what world these people are living in... it has happended again... in Rwanda and other places. It is happening again now in the Middle East.

To Giovanni, are there any British Coal Mines left? ;-)

Posted by: Noel Cosgrave | August 26, 2006 05:28 PM


Lolita, why don't you go to work in a British coal mine?

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 26, 2006 04:39 PM


There are a lot of examples to remember, that causes a certain lineup in our brains, unfortunately.
I hope that within 100 years our successors will not have to remember more stuff than we do now.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 26, 2006 04:38 PM


Lolita, I've got few hundred acres of moose pasture to sell you.

Posted by: Enrico Rossi | August 26, 2006 04:28 PM


Warez, lolitas, porn movies, cracks, trojans http://liveshow.ru

Posted by: Lolita | August 26, 2006 03:15 PM


And let not forget Cambodia,and Tibet,and what's happening in North Korea as well,very very sad indeed.

Posted by: evakulnura | August 26, 2006 09:03 AM


What about holocaust by the hands of one of your own group? Mao starved to death 21 Million Chinese in 1971 alone! These people ended up eating leaves because Mao had confiscated their crops to generate cash to purchase huge quantities of arms from Eastern Europe. After the leaves were eaten and winter came all these farmers were left to die. Stalin sent millions to horrible labour, torture and death in his Gulags . Do these mass exterminations qualify as Holocaust or not? I guess the terminology would be irrelevant to the recipients of the massacres. We as a species are basically no damn good in spite of absurd claims that we were made in the semblance of an all loving God.

Posted by: Enrico Rossi | August 26, 2006 02:19 AM


Wise words Prince:-)

Posted by: evakulnura | August 26, 2006 01:14 AM


I agree 100%, Prince.
You know, that's my own philosophy of life.
Always starting from our own small way. It's a very good start to change the whole world.... :-))))))

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 26, 2006 01:13 AM


By the way:
The Jews killed by the Nazis were 4 million, the rest were Russian prisoners, communists, dissidents, Gypsies and other people I don't remember now.
Let's not forget the Armenians killed by the Turks, the Bulgarians killed by the Bizantines and so on.

Every historical period has its ethnical purges and who knows what will happen within 2-300 years from now.

The point is that after all those centuries we did not learn anything about tolerance and respect and until we continue to not do it, there will always be situations like this.

What about starting from our own little corner?

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 26, 2006 12:06 AM


No, Noel, I don't want to insult anybody, at the contrary, i think that every second, while we are writing on this blog, thousand of children are dying in the whole world because they haven't anything to eat, o because they have AIDS, or because they was playing in a field, and they jumped of a mine.
I only wanted to say that the nazi-dictature, and the Jews persecution and extermination was scientifically planned and executed with cold-blooded german thoroughness. That is its distinctiveness.
I dont' mean it was worse oder better than other massacres, and I think that for all victims of those atrocities, everywhere and everytime, it doesn't matter why it's happend, and the reasons because they are tortured and murdered.
But if we don't try to understand the history and its grounds, we are at risk of repeating the same mistakes.

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 25, 2006 11:12 PM


Joselle asks...

"Where were the Arabs over 60 years ago when the Nazis were torturing and busily engaged in the Jewish genocide and the holocaust in general?"

Where were they? In their homelands, dealing with the imperialist British, that is where they were. I don't dislike the comment, but I do wonder what motivated you to ask it.

To Raffaella...
Just because you declare a holocaust to be unique doesn't mean it was. To focus on the method as marking it out as unique is a little bizarre. What makes it a holocaust, one holocaust amongst many, is the extent of the crime.

However, to claim that the event is somehow special is an insult to the memories of, to name but a few:

- the 20 million Russians who died in the 2nd world war
- the 9 million East Timorese who have perished (far closer to the literal meaning of a holocaust than the human race has ever come)
- the uncounted number of Native Americans who were wiped out in colonial invasions
- the 2 million plus Irish who died from a famine that was a direct result of deliberate British inaction
- the aboriginal population of Australia, whose numbers have been decimated.

All of these events were resulted from a sense of racial superiority, just as the genocide the Israelis have been attempting since the foundation of their state is motivated by supremacist ideology.

To single out any one horrific event for special treatment is to make a mockery of the needless human suffering and unmeasurable tragedy that was the single common defining characteristic of these darker parts of our collective human history.

Posted by: Noel Cosgrave | August 25, 2006 10:41 PM


Look at the fireworks started by a few posts! I am very much at pain to reconcile the trampled rights of the Arabs with their most extreme religious beliefs. I'm always on the side of the dispossessed and criminal actions like the ones undertaken recently by Israel make me go ballistic.
However would I wish to see Fundamentalist Islamic
Republics established in the Arab world? I sure hope not because this could spell the end of all of us. In the words of Einstein : "I don't know how the Third World War will be fought, but the Fourth will be fought with sticks and stones".

Posted by: Enrico Rossi | August 25, 2006 09:52 PM


Giovanni Principe

Are you eating Nasty Sandwiches?

No.

I went to visit a friend in the hospital and found a South American lady next to my friend moaning and in terrible pain. She had to crawl to the washroom and was crying with pain.

I was so distressed by it and asked her if I could do something. She asked if I could give her something for pain. I had nothing so I asked her if I could go and buy her water.
What would water do for someone in her condition?

That's when she told me that her work was the reason she ended in hospital.

Sarcasm apart, go and visit the foreigners who unfortunately end up in hospital and that is a good window to life for foreigners in Italy. A little dose of that wonderful thing called humanity.

Posted by: Marcia Visanji | August 25, 2006 08:41 PM


By the way, Marcia, I want to add something to your very good explanation.
Everybody is talking about the pakistani girl murdered by her father, because of her not religious way of life.
Tis story is very sad and worse. It's a example of women's hate and subjection till extreme consequences. But we shouldn't forget that in our beloved Italy the crime committed to vindicate honours was (and is) very common, first of all in South Italy, and many women had been murdered or savagely beated by their men because of their "dishonorable" behavior. We are not Skandinavians.
What I mean is that this horrible events are not only prerogative of muslims and we must fight against every abuse and imposition, it doesn't matter who is the offender and where he's coming from.

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 25, 2006 07:58 PM


I think we should make something clear about Israel, the Nazis, the Holocaust and the war in middle east,there is a great misunderstanding that doesn't help to bring peace in this area.
The holocaust was unique and (I hope)unrepeatable, because of two reasons: the scientific, methodical way in which the extermination was planned and executed, and the grounds of this extermination based on the aberrant conviction of the superiority of the arian race. The persecutions of jews in Germany had begun before the war.It wasn't a consequence of a war attack, but a deliberate will of destruction.
What's happening today is not the same, but it's terrible and condemnable enough.
I don't want to be accused of anti-semitism if I don't agree at all with Israel's politics and its constant trampling on palestinian's rights. I don't want to be accused to be a friend of terrorists, fundalmentalists, Hezbollah et cetera if I say that Israel's reaction was excessive.
We should learn to talk about this problem in a objective way, to condemn any racism, anti-semitism, fundamentalism and not to need to side with one of them.

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | August 25, 2006 07:34 PM


from my blog:

The Iranian press agency renders Ahmadinejad on 2005-12-14 as follows:

"'If the Europeans are telling the truth in their claim that they have killed six million Jews in the Holocaust during the World War II ..."


"...If you have committed the crimes so give a piece of your land somewhere in Europe or America and Canada or Alaska to them to set up their own state there... "


"...If your civilization consists of aggression, displacing the oppressed nations, suppressing justice-seeking voices and spreading injustice and poverty for the majority of people on the earth, then we say it out loud that we despise your hollow civilization."

That's a critics to our world. And sounds deep and painful.

Posted by: fab tom | August 25, 2006 07:18 PM


Hey, Marcia!
Are you eating Nasty Sandwiches?

You are right about pointing out some impartialities that happen in the Western world.

You have also to try to enter in western people's minds when they are faced with somebody different from them because Muslim's lifestile has to be dealt with culture which is lacking in the majority of people.

Personally I'm bothered when a kid is murdered by his/her family because of religion beliefs and I despise it like any other crimes: the difference is that it could be avoided if that family would have a little bit of common sense.
Common sense knows no religion and fits everywhere, the same must be said for information and culture.
Information and culture are almost never implemented in muslim nations and this favors general opinions like the object of this post.

I think that everybody must come out from their fortresses and face the problem and this action belongs to ordinary people because politicians and corporations are either deaf, incapacitated or don't want to find a solution.

Who prevents anybody from talking to these "different people"?

Everybody it's just there, it's enough to go there and ask: "How are you? I'm so and so....."

At this point we can start to peel off the external skin of this problem before the fruit will get rotten inside.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | August 25, 2006 07:10 PM


Nobody ever mentioned to swipe israel out of a map, it is a mistification of the news and a manipulated translation, here the proof:

http://www.jeann2.com/blog/index.php?post_id=38

Posted by: fab tom | August 25, 2006 06:18 PM


Joselle Camilleri
Where did you get this Islam dehumanising/demonisation phrase from “where is the sanity of mind of a mother who is GLAD her sons will be martyrs of a Holy War? How many mothers have you talked to?

You are talking about yourself obviously!

What’s this insanity:
“Where is the UCOII's voice to be heard after the recent murder of a young woman BY HER OWN FATHER based on discrimination against women and other religious beliefs?”

It is clear you know nothing about Islam or anything else. Discrimination against women and other religious beliefs?”

You are hilarious. Repeating the neocohen/Bushit mantra just shows your pathetic ignorance.

Pray explain to me the sane reason why Italians (major part of whom are Christians) travelled long distance and took out numbers and stayed in long queues for the trial of an Italian CHRISTIAN MOTHER who is accused of killing HER CHILD; HER SON like it was some kind of "grotesque show". Nobody cared to remind these “ grotesque spectators/ voyeurs” that a small child was brutally murdered.

or the daughter ERICA who killed her small brother & mother.

Do not be obnoxious & ludicrous.

Do stop bitching. Unfortunately in every nation familes do commit murders. In fact satistic say that in most cases it is the family member so why are you picking on Ucoii. You want to know their opinion call them like I did and stop the vile propaganda.

Clearly you have no contacts to foreigners – ask the poor south American women working as chef why they suffer from kidney stones (why are they refused to go to the washroom, so they do not drink water) They are paid less than an Italian for doing the same job!
Ask the Moldavians working on construction sites and they will tell you horrific stories , ask the Philippinoes, the Poles, the Russians……each will recount horrific tales of brutality

UCOII have every right to take any publicity they like. If you do not like the truth tough luck but that is no reason to hide the truth.

“if you do not like the package you find here, go elsewhere, or go back. And this is not being racist,”..

Neither do the Muslims like European states interfering in their land and making their lives intolerable and miserable. The European government that is stealing Islamic resources and butchering the Islamic people.

Do not worry about racism just get EU, World Bank fascist organisation from Muslim lands. They can manage very well without the bastardising colonialism.

By the way I am sending this to UCOII and Islamic Human Rights.

Posted by: Marcia Visanji | August 25, 2006 06:08 PM


In my humble opinion Israel, as is, is a state that must be heradicated by our planet.
I think that we are civilised enough to don't waste time in waiting Iran to develop its nukes. We can use our own, or at least supporting the Hezbollah and any "Coalition of the willing" to eradicate this war-mongering state.

It's time to change in better our planet.

I'm an ateist and I cannot accept that in name of an not existing God /promised land so many massacres remains unpunished.

It's time to eradicate state religions and any fundamentalism.

Posted by: Fedele Pacciani | August 25, 2006 05:55 PM


What a confused posting! Which foreign secret service are you pandering to, now?
I have chilling photographs of Izraeli children & men signing missile and dancing that you did not have the courage to post: Death Gifts of love for Lebanese children and people and you want to pander to the “jews have attacked Israel’s policy in Lebanon? This will get you an invitation to the Mayor of Rome’s chosen people medal ceremony.

You have the obscene and vulgar audacity to write “However no authoritative Islamic voice has expressed opposition to the declared wish of Hezbollah to eliminate the State of Israel.”

Islamic countries have never occupied any lands or asked to wage a war on innocent people like. On Irak by American for Izrael.The appalling Europeans who have given Islamic lands to a bunch of brutal barbaric butcher zionazis. Palestinians are uprooted, their houses destroyed their lands stolen and are made to live in appalling humiliating degrading manner and you say the Islamic authorities should express opposition! What barbarism are you asking to embrace? Pregnant women suffer abortions, still born, premature and difficult birth because Israeli Nazism.
Islam puts pregnant women on a pedestal and they give precedence to pregnant women in queues at markets, banks, supermarkets everywhere and judeochristains support the appalling war crimes committed on this group Go and live in Gaza or the occupied Palestinian lands before taking the obnoxious barbaric high ground.

The death comparisons made by Ucoii: is more than legitimate and the comparison to Nazism is 100% right. You have a very selective memory. that is extremely nasty and racists.
Just because the truth is unpalatable to the Italian politicians of sorts and an Italian comic, there is no reason to hide it.
What the hell happened to your freedom of speech?

Robert Fisk: Independent :Untold story of the massacre of Marjayoun …

Posted by: Marcia Visanji | August 25, 2006 05:08 PM


Some might not like this comment but, going back in time, where were the Arabs over 60 years ago when the Nazis were torturing and busily engaged in the Jewish genocide and the holocaust in general?

I also have another pertinent question to ask - where is the sanity of mind of a mother who is GLAD her sons will be martyrs of a Holy War? If this is supposed to be one of the perns of Islamic culture then, no thank you, I won't have it.

If the UCOII has something to say, it should state its stand always, not whenever it suits its purpose... for example, what is its stand vis-a-vis the exploitation of poor people illuded by the idea of a better life and, often, in danger of their very own lives, embark on those clandestine voyages, some of which end disastrously? Where is the UCOII's voice to be heard after the recent murder of a young woman BY HER OWN FATHER based on discrimination against women and other religious beliefs?

If you do not like what you see, then comment, yes, do something, but in a tangible way and be consistent, for heaven's sake... many are finding it hard to believe you.

And don't keep blaming Italy for your miseries... if you do not like the package you find here, go elsewhere, or go back. And this is not being racist, it is being pragmatic. Many foreigners stay in Italy and in other countries, they manage to settle down nicely, have employment, live decently [not without any problems but still they are sincere, decent, genuine folk].

What irritates me most is that we hardly know who finances this UCOII, who the masterminds behind this organization are, what their intentions are... how trustworthy are they?

Think... think before it is too late!

Posted by: Joselle Camilleri | August 25, 2006 03:47 PM


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