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In Italy, if we donít count the following groups:

- children
- pensioners
- public sector employees
- trades unionists
- tax dodgers
- politicians
- those who falsely claim to be disabled
- unemployed people
- organized crime
- prisoners

that just leaves 2 million people who are producing for everyone. People who are tormented by public administrators, robbed by organized crime, taken for a ride by the politicians, laughed at by pardoned prisoners, derided by tax-dodgers, felt sorry for by false disabled people, given finger signals by trades unionists. People who pay contributions for pensioners and for unemployment benefits for the unemployed. Two million people that are the envy of the whole planet. An economic miracle. Each one maintains a family unit of 30 people. But itís a race of beasts of burden that is slowly dying out. Soon Italians will have to keep themselves. Two million people support, with their taxes, entire regions and social classes. If some of these two million are listening Iíve got a proposal. Letís count ourselves. Letís sign a request to get asylum in Australia. Two million workers who produce the whole Italian GDP are a resource not to be missed. It would be enough for us to have a piece of land in Queensland or in Victoria. A new life without parasites. The roughly 56 Italians remaining could get adopted by the FAO {Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations}. Itíll certainly need them.

Ps: I hope that Bossi doesnít telephone me.

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From: Prodos SNM (Melbourne, Australia)

Good afternoon.

Francesco Filippi replied to my post:
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Dear guy from Melbourne [ ... ] i was intending to stress that in Italy we miss education and culture [ ... ] There are people working enough but not liberating themselves through education and culture!!
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As the 17th Century English thinker, John Locke, wrote:

"He is certainly the most subjected, the most enslaved, who is so in his Understanding."

I certainly agree that education and culture are vital.

That both political liberty (the appreciation and defense of a free society) and personal/intellectual liberty (having the knowledge and ideas that enable us to improve ourselves) rely heavily on good education and culture.

But does Beppe Grillo, in his article, disagree with this? I don't see any evidence that he does.

Sure, let's encourage better education, learning, reading, thinking. Definitely!

But let's not make the mistake of assuming that promoting and defending the material/economic is in conflict with promoting and defending the intellectual/cultural.

These two aspects of human life are not in conflict. They are not at odds. They are not opposites.

Let's have both!

Okay? Do we agree on this? :-)

Best Wishes,

PRODOS

Posted by: Prodos SNM | December 2, 2006 08:15 AM



Dear guy from Melbourne, probably you don't understand what i was meaning because you are not in Italy, anyway i was intending to stress that in Italy we miss education and culture, maybe you don't know how many boys have to go to work at 14 or 16 without a good education, many people is not interested in books, culture and education at all!! That is one of the main troubles in Italy!!!!!!
There are people working enough but not liberating themselves through education and culture!! The unemployement level is 5% in the Centre North but half of the population doesn't read a book as it seems from statistics!

PS i am working 8.3 a day in a call center so I know what productivity is!!!

Posted by: francesco filippi | December 1, 2006 10:39 PM


just an answer:
where do i have to sign?

Posted by: Annelise Dal Maso | November 10, 2006 01:52 PM


the name of the website disappeared, so here it is again: www.fonteine.com.

Posted by: d.van herk | November 8, 2006 10:06 AM


This message was translated in a few words and posted on the independent, critical website about food, health, environment etc. in Holland.If somebody in the world has important independent news about the subjects ment above: don't hesitate: send this news (translated in english) to ugamedia@wirehub.nl. We put also www.lanutrition.fr and www.passeportsante.net on the site and lots more. It should me a complete international website.Let's work together.Thank you for reading this.

Posted by: d.van herk | November 8, 2006 10:04 AM


Ciao Grillo,

I'd like to speak up for all the expatriates like me.
It is not easy at all to leave our beautiful country, but rest assure I am glad to live in Hong Kong and pay a quarter of the taxes you pay in Italy and get five times the interest you get from your italian bank savings account.

Every expat has a different reason to leave.
Every expat learns his/her own way that there is a different world out there and things CAN be better.

It'd be good, instead of moving to Auzzie, to return en masse to Italy and apply the lessons we have learnt: try and change things is usually better than fleeing.
I know you will agree with me, since you are still there and fighting.

Greetings from China!

Posted by: Claudio Canzonetta | November 7, 2006 10:25 AM


Greetings from Australia!

A friend of mine in Italy just pointed me to your article. I'm an activist and entertainer living in Melbourne - which has one of the highest Italian populations in the world.

The Italians over here are highly productive, successful, and greatly-loved people.

Yes! We would be delighted to have your 2 million people! :-)

In reply to "francesco filippi" who says:

"money and productivity is not everything in the world"

Wrong! It is indeed EVERYTHING!

Only a society which respects its wealth-creators has any legitimacy. Why? Because material wealth goes hand-in-hand with intellectual/spiritual wealth. The two are inseparable!

The society which liberates one, liberates the other. The society which enslaves one, enslaves the other.

Indeed, Italy's proud history has demonstrated this for all to see many times.

And when "francesco filippi" calls you a "headless populist" what is he saying? That he has contempt for anyone who listens and cares about the people of Italy!

And he tells you to "Stop and talk less!"

What arrogant foolishness!

Is silence and acceptance of problems the answer? Let us pretend there are no problems?! Let us not criticise?

Perhaps it's time Francesco practiced a bit of self-criticism! Not to mention some humility!

Yes, be proud of Italy. It is a wonderful country! But part of its glory is its ability to BE SELF-CRITICAL!

Francesco's brand of headless, brainless, blind "pride" does not help Italy.

Three cheers for the heroes of money and productivity! Three cheers for Italy and Capitalism!

Best Wishes,

PRODOS
(Melbourne, Australia)


Posted by: PRODOS SNM | November 6, 2006 11:53 PM


The people who are doing the work are the ones who deserve to stay.

Posted by: Charles Terenzio | November 6, 2006 11:35 PM



Dear Grillo, the money and productivity is not everything in the world. You are beginning to be a headless populist. Where are your datas from? Why are you still so selfcritical and offensive against Italy?? Stop and talk less! if Italy is at this stage is everybody's fault, maybe also yours...!

Posted by: francesco filippi | November 6, 2006 10:09 PM


....yes it does deserve a standing ovation,Litle Italy State,or Grilloland great idea,ciao

Posted by: evakulnura | November 6, 2006 09:18 PM


This one really deserves a standing ovation.
I'm living most of my time in China, and I pay all of my taxes in Italy: and both China and Italy are not what people think of.
And believe me: I'm ready to request asylum to Australia, absolutely no kidding. I know I'm a precious resource, and with me the so many others who won't sleep over their being "westerners".

Posted by: Massimo Bergadano | November 6, 2006 04:23 PM


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