Class war


The hard class war without fear. The one that filled the streets in the 1970s. That war no longer exists. Because, in the end, a single class has won. The class of power. The one that no longer stays only in Palazzo di Pasolini. It has spread out like contagion. Itís wherever thereís a position thatís public Ė or semi-public.
Wherever thereís one of our employees with a career.
Itís a class that is everywhere. There are the former sixty eight-ers with careers in the media or in the Ministries. And with them the post-fascists, now even post-Christian-Democrats. And even the post-communists, they are now just post and nothing else. Itís a viscous class. Its spiderís web goes through the banks, arriving at the municipalized companies, taking hold of the media and extending to the town councils. Itís a single class that has managed to get the parts turned upside down. It is no longer at the service of the citizens.
If citizens donít understand, they are thick. If they rebel they are ďno-globalĒ even if they are 70 years old. If they complain, they are arrogant. Citizens have no right to criticize. They are not informed if the most disgusting things are done on their territory.
Incinerators, gas depots, holes in the mountain, pollution of rivers and lakes, commercial centres instead of parks, car parks instead of cycle paths, Pm10 instead of trees.
To know that the State no longer exists in Campania, you just have to rely on the courage of Saviano who has written Gomorra. Who cleared up that there is the System and that the local politicians are ornaments in bad taste in the election shop window.
To know what happens in Sicily, where by now the State and the Anti-State live side by side, as stated by Pacs Lunardi, we have to wait for a TV item from Travaglio. And when a news item smells. It really smells. And you canít get it to stay silent. Like for the Telecom intercepts. They talk about it just for as long as is needed and then they trust in the Alzheimerís of the Italian people.
Today in Italy, there are two classes. The citizens and those who administer the public good in the name of the citizens but for their own personal gain. Today in Italy, the choices of the single class are unpopular and we are even told as much to our faces. Like for the pardon. The single class is proud of being unpopular.
But, if it is the people that has given them their mandate, they should however be popular. Or go home. The next employee that shows off about making an unpopular choice is to be kicked in the backside and sacked.
Itís the time for a direct democracy. There are some tools, others will come. A democracy that starts from the territory. From where the people can exercise control. From the Town Halls. RESET!

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I totally agree with your post man. You might find interesting and somewhat encouraging what the Governor of Sardinia (Renato Soru) has done so far to improve transparency. Before he came into power the cost of political administration were a shady business. In recent years public expenditure to support the region's operating costs spiralled beyond control and nobody denounced or even attempted the faintest protest because, as you may know, free press in Italy is a luxury that we can't afford. Soru revolutionized everything and really put the concept of transparency into practice. Now anyone can gain access to a lot of data and information regarding the political decisions and public administration trough the Region's official website. Can you believe that in Italy hundreds of millions of euro have been spent towards the modernazation of the IT infrastructure? What's the result? By now we should have had every single region with an "up to date"/"state of the art" web site, wich is (if used correctly ) a powerful mean of information. I'm not a huge fan of computers myself but this unlikely form of freedom seems to be the only possible route to a better and more democratic way of life.

Posted by: piero sanna | January 10, 2007 05:56 PM

Doing nothing and getting a lot of money?

Hey, I would apply for it!

Where do I sign?

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | January 10, 2007 05:43 PM

Hello there, Public Domain is by Definition Public and therefore available and displayable at any time and upon any public request for information.
I am obviously speaking for myself although I have a suspect many other Italians would like to know the same things;
How many Italians are on the Institutions Payrolls (I guess to venture nobody knows, although should be released to the Public!)
Each and every Public Manager Tax Return (Since they make a lot of our Money should be Public)
Example the Director of Rome biggest Hospital (The one in the latest scandal) makes approx. Euros 260.000 (Equivalent of $338.000 more than the President of the US!) has been in place for over 1 Ĺ years and has done nothing, what are his responsibilities?
Every Italian (I guess here) would like to apply for this position and related job duties.
Rest my case.

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | January 10, 2007 04:37 PM

I hear you Giacomo loud and clear!

Posted by: piero sanna | January 10, 2007 12:51 PM

Hello there, and the evolution of the species.
Similar to any field that I am aware of, Politics and human behavior follow very close the theory of evolution.
To expect a radical change in Italian Politics although badly needed it is realistically not feasible.
The fact of the matter is that the Political Establishment is a reactive at best and completely detached and elitist at worst.
These idiots had 40 years to establish themselves as the guiding light, and Italian have been inculcated with the notions that Politicians are needed and they are the only one capable and willing to save the Country.
Armed with this knowledge the above mentioned Idiots have trenched themselves, each and every one into his/her own Party and built an array of rules, regulations, laws and connection, and to penetrate this shields of bull shit would take generations.
These are the facts, and more people clamor and complains about the disarray of Government Agency more they clamp together to support each other, with the clear intent not to loose grip of the Power.
Power and Control is the ultimate goal, knowledge, vision, plans, action, none of these issue are within the grasp of these buffoons, their vision is only day to day operation, keep the Government together and the power in their hand while tomorrow will be another day with more money flowing in their accounts, and if the shit hits the fan they are irresponsible any how.
They are subject of ďNo ConsequencesĒ any how, where is the stick in the ďStick and Carrot policy applicable to everyone else like Italians?
Folks first change the rules of the game than maybe and I emphasize maybe these incompetent will be forced to comply like everyone else.
People Dictated Referendums (With People Preferences and not Politicians) Federation of Regions, Reduction in Government (Incompetent Agency closed and finished) Pubblic Official sign Contracts for their job with Responsibilities and duties clearly stated, Judges do not participate in Politics period etc etc.
The only thing these idiots know very well is how to stay there and you at the receiving end, and so either you play the game with their ruled or change the rule so you can play the game as well.

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | January 10, 2007 12:39 PM

I see your point, but I still think this is not something easy to do.
Beside, Italians abroad are allowed to see only part of the real situation. RAI has been politicized and manipulated by the parties that come into power since the beginning of TV broadcasting. The only real situation is the one you and me have the chance to read in this and few other independent and not politicized blogs.

Posted by: Lorenzo Federico | January 9, 2007 11:19 PM


My opinion is that another essential element is political neutrality.

For instance, although people you mentioned are clearly competent and motivated, they have shown in the past to be too much politically connected, taking side with specific parties.

I think that being super partes is another important prerequisite to honestly work for our county.

Posted by: Lorenzo Federico | January 9, 2007 11:01 PM

Beppe is not going to go into politics,Di Pietro is the only one in the moment,on the front line,and it is by himself,nobody else,so we wait and see approach,....... like Beppe,you know Lorenzo it is possible and easily get 50.000 thousand signature from immigrants overseas if you like to have a referendum or we can still,get here everyday and have a good whinge about each post the Beppe write,and do nothing,and Piero I agree with you, any good influence will come only from the immigrants,because we do not wacht telenovelas only,ciao

Posted by: eva kulnura | January 9, 2007 10:39 PM

Well said Lorenzo! I also think that if we really have to choose a 'Leader' this should certainly be Beppe. He, more than anybodyelse in the past 15 years, has been the last true voice that always stood up from the crowded choir of yes-man at the service of this truly shabby goverment. However I think Grillo will never get officially involved into politics and it's very easy to understand why. It's such a shame because he showed us time and time again that he can surround himself with the right people. Beppe Grillo is the enlightening example of how good results one can achieve with the help of true professionals, experts, people that have an 'hands on' approach and a thourough knoledge of the subject they are involved in. I strongly believe that a political party comprising of Grillo,Di Pietro, Travaglio, Furio Colombo,Luttazzi,Biagi ,Santoro ,Guzzanti etc could do great things for our country. I know, I know, most of these people I mentioned are entertainers, comedians or journalists but I think they gave us on many occasions the irrefutable proof that their grasp and understanding of politics is solid and more importantly genuine. What do you think? should try to convince these people to save our ass? Enza, Lorenzo, anyone let me know what you reckon. Cheerio

Posted by: piero sanna | January 9, 2007 07:32 PM


We can do very little other than keep the pressure on.

We need loyal and competent people but the main requisite is a good media exposure, because, as Piero said, responsiveness varies in people depending on the sources of the message.

The only person I can think about is the creator of this blog. I personally donít know anybody able to embody at the same time popularity and remarkable knowledge of the Italian system as Beppe does.

I am sure there are people in this blog that can indicate other qualified people but those people also need to be ready to embrace such a big task.


Posted by: Lorenzo Federico | January 9, 2007 06:00 PM

I partially agree with your point of view guys. I personally don't believe in centralized powers. I do understand the need for some kind of leadership and media exposure and Grillo has both. The point is that Grillo is not the messiah and he can't take responsability for everything that goes on in Italy, especially now that is not even in politics! We have to keep in mind that masses are by nature ignorant, disinformed and easily influenced by media. Unfortunately they never behave in a conscious and spontaneus way, they always wait to be told what to do when and why. I'll give you an example so that we understand each other. Six months ago I joined the Meet up group in Cagliari. I prepared a very detailed and informative post about the future construction of two massive incinerators in Sardinia. Very few people responded to the post that was in a matter of days completely ignored. A couple of weeks ago Grillo suggested that all Meet-ups should organize a protest against incinerators and,as if by magic,
the Cagliari meet up went up in arms demonstrating against the incinerators. Now, I know that what matters is that people in the end protested and made their voices heard, one way or another, but what really strikes me is how much the level of responsiveness varies in people when the message is the same, but the sources are different. Any comment or suggestion would be highly appreciated

Posted by: piero sanna | January 9, 2007 12:25 PM

Lorenzo,so how do we start?!

Posted by: eva kulnura | January 9, 2007 06:47 AM


As far as I know, weíve got experts, such as Mario Monti, that are very much appreciated abroad, but are out of the game because they are too much honest and competent to blend with that bunch of good-for-nothing that grow and flourish in our parliament.

I say that if Berlusconi failed then I cannot be prime minister anymore.

Professor Prodi got reelected and shameless came out again with the same finanziaria he made during is first mandate, full of taxes and no innovation. But the most unbelievable thing is that he is still there smiling, talking of equity and jerking us around.


In order to really do something from the inside the system, we need first to change the system itself by setting new rules. A referendum is hopefully the only mean we have to force them keep their hands off our county and give some room to the best part of Italy.

People like Grillo have the chance and the knowledge to do that. All we need is a panel of motivated experts and 50000 citizensí signature.
I hope it is a feasible thing and not just a dream.

Posted by: Lorenzo Federico | January 9, 2007 06:00 AM

Lorenzo i agree with you,but who would you put in their place?,the point is it is the same soup,same people,same attitude,the change will occur only from outside Italy,we are the only country in the world that let immigrants vote,we do have one minister and a senator,in this government both from Australia,what we need is a party made of immigrants from all over the world ,that can bring new idea,and fresh air,it will be a HUUUUUUGGGGGGe job anybody up for it?

Posted by: eva kulnura | January 9, 2007 01:28 AM

it is always good to talk, but at this point it is also time for some action
Grillo create a big people network and italians are sick of this new class of power.


All we need is a REFERENDUM.

Grillo has the means and the competence to do this and he's got the people support.

Let's kick them out.


Posted by: Lorenzo Federico | January 8, 2007 09:56 PM

All this is sweet talk my friends,or if you prefer sweet dreams....
Direct Dimocracy or best TRUE Athenian democracy is something that will never be repeated and you know why??
Because modern politics is based on money..!!!

"Make money, money by fair means if you can, if not, but any means money"

Posted by: paola filinesi | January 8, 2007 09:56 PM

I'll have to agree with most part of Beppe's post.
The problem is that even the definition of what is popular and what isn't must be thoroughly investigated and defined. Italy it's quite a peculiar place where anomalies are the common currency. I'd say that for the vast majority of Italians being popular means to get rich, dodge the taxman and get away with it. Popular in Italy also means that very old and very unfair privileges that belong to certain well known 'caste' of power, are left untouched. Popular in Italy is a very dangerous word that has to be treated with care and a lot of attention. Mr Berlusconi is extremely popular in Italy. Let's never forget that this little man became such a popular figure because he understood two very important things that the left party completely ignored. The first one is that if something doesn't happen on TV it doesen't exist. The second one is that to get the political message accross in Italy, you need to be simple, direct, smile a lot and sell impossible dreams. As of now renewable sources of energy, morality, integrity, honesty, education, the study of foreign languages, the widespread development of IT skills, digital divide, conflict of interest and free press are very very unpopular words in Italy.To sum up, my point is that politicians sometimes have to be unpopular in a world were the masses are ignorant and totally disinformed. This however does not prevent political leaders to behave and comunicate in a popular fashion, and this is why Beppe Grillo should be elected Italian Prime Minister with immediate effect! ahahah ahah

Nel tempo dell'inganno globale dire la verita' e'
il vero atto rivoluzionario. George Orwell

Posted by: piero sanna | January 8, 2007 07:04 PM

Hello there and thank god this is a good argument I can most definitely relate to, and specifically who is responsible for what.
In any field, whether public or private some rule of accountability is used (Every where with the blatant exception) and must be used otherwise we should prepare yourself for the worst because itís all irrelevant.
Without accountability, responsibility, credibility etc, itís all irrelevant, they dictate and write the rules and you and only you at the bottom of the pyramid will have to oblige to it.
1) Hospitals Mismanagement? (No one is responsible, they all did it)
2) Telecom Italia (Heard anything lately, donít hold your breath)
3) Mr. Fazio (Where did it go, he was running it so well)
4) Parmalat (Limbo no news, while Banca Lavoro settle for approx. 165 Mil)
5) Prescription for Public Miss accounting (Hoops I did it again?)
6) And on, and on, and on etc
Why doesnít everybody, all at once and all together ask Membership Card for the same chosen Party, and let see what happen?
Italian may have a shut at the Pinnacle of Power, Politician without a Cause.
Good luck and good night.

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | January 8, 2007 05:34 PM

Cheer up! Italy is in good company. You'll find this "single class" in most Countries. Once the politicians are ensconced in their Legislatures there is little the voters can do to prevent them from grabbing as much as they can. One of the first things they usually do is a fat increase in their salary and benefits. The only way to beat them is to join them!

Posted by: Enrico Rossi | January 8, 2007 05:26 PM

Isn't this the best of all possible worlds?

Posted by: Candide V. | January 8, 2007 04:55 PM


The only way to get rid of those parasites is to transfer them all to Iraq, take them to court and let them end like Saddam.

I bet very few people will protest against death penalty.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | January 8, 2007 04:51 PM

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