Ministers are hostages

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The Minister as a hostage is a noble figure in the Italian political panorama. The sequence is well known. A Minister opposes a stupid idea of the Government or he supports a legitimate request from a citizen. His colleagues ignore him. The Minister gets indignant (not always) and turn to public opinion (not always).
Anyway he declares himself to be a hostage of the Majority. Which without him (or her) would become the Minority.
What we would like to know is who keeps these Ministers as hostages? Who prevents the truth about Abu Omar from coming out.. Who Is blocking the judges with Pulcinella’s State Secret. Who doesn’t want a clean sweep of the incinerators.
Who gifts a week’s ski holiday to the telephone companies by moving the time frame for abolishing the costs of recharging the mobiles? Who wants the pardon even though no citizen in his right mind wanted it. Who thinks that 12/13 thousand million Euros to do a tunnel in Val di Susa is progress and not folly? Who doesn’t want clarity on the Telecom intercepts?
There’s no Dr Who keeping the Ministers as hostages. However there is in existence a transversal party called Forza DS with the external support of the Margherita. The Ministers held hostage should take note and not continue to pay the what’s demanded with the associated loss of credibility.
Either they get to the bottom of things or don’t bother. Let them not keep annoying us with Cip6, with Afghanistan, With Vicenza or with the pardon. That’s stuff that we already know about. Their role is to do something. If they can’t do that, at least they should keep quiet, because they are not even talking about resigning.

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Please sign this petition to stop the oil and gas exploitation of the Val di Noto in Sicily

Posted by: Caterina Allegra | February 23, 2007 07:26 PM


Hello there Mr. Principe!
Well sorry to say they already have driven Italy into the ground.
Look at the reply, the eco speaks loud and clear.
Italians uevos are in the hand of Politicians and their silence speaks loudly.
Beleive me it needs to get worst before something changes!
Thanks

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | February 17, 2007 04:20 PM


Hello there!
I believe the Economist article about Italy has hit the nail in the head (Although quite easy to pin-point) since Italy’s abyssal difference with the rest of Europe.
As I stated several time before, while the world is looking forward for improvement Italy and the Political Establishment is looking backward (All the Politicians are from the 80’s generation) the only thing they know is the old reality.
Unions are the shackle and Politicians the chains that permeated and still tie down Citizen’s freedom, freedom of enterprise, financial freedom and freedom to pursue whatever they desire for themselves.
This classical and I may add convenient division is only feeding in the hand of these Political Individuals and their survivor.
More divisions and more in-class (Class= Have and Have Not!) fighting equates to more Power and Control for these Idiotic Incompetent Dinosaurs Politicians from back than.
Don’t let them tell You what You need or Do the Thinking for You!
Send them home for good, no coming back in another Party or in another coalition!
Who know what’s good for You?
You decide, as for me I came to the conclusion that more Italian Politicians abuse their constituencies and feed the Ruling Class (Bankers, Industrialist, all the 380 with Mr. Prodi in India making deals with your money) less You complain because You feel Irrelevant and Powerless.
Fact: State Own Companies loosing Your money are privatized (Alitalia, Anas and Cassa Depositi e Prestiti, while Finmeccanica, Eni, Enel, Telephones, Postal Service will not) as for the profit making Operation will not because by doing so they will keep you in check.
Electricity, Gas and Oil, Telephone and Military Hardware, in these fields they will keep you and your freedom in check, money and power for them and taxes for you.
Sounds like a deal for them, meanwhile all the world organizations like OCSE, the EU, the FMI, MOODY, ECB etc see more money going in Government and Companies hands as Positive for them not You.
Speak with your vote and money, is the only thing they listen to!
Thanks

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | February 16, 2007 02:59 PM


Giacomo

Somebody must stop these guys before they will drive the Nation to the ground.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | February 15, 2007 03:58 PM


Hello there!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Did you hear the eco?
Just a reminder, OCSE has come out with the results on the Italian Economy for the year 2006, and it looks reasonably good therefore Politicians (As expected jumped on the bandwagon!).
No surprise here, although what I find mind boggling is the fact that none of these Idiotic Politicians, Financial Gurus, Experts, Fiscal and Monetary planners had the slightest clue on the numbers the Economy (And this is You, the productive part of Italy not them) was really working hard and paying taxes.
With all their planning, verifications, hawkish remarks and estimations, they missed the boat by miles (Government estimate off by at least 0.4% of GNP= 600.000.000,00) and therefore the result for the good job You did is that Taxes went up, they are still f____ng with you and laughing all the way to the bank (For them obviously and their bank accounts).
Reality is Your life is in the hand of Incompetents, the Economy is not regulated by this Idiots, they only legislate laws to cover their asses and their wallet.
If the Economy grows You pay more taxes, if the Economy shrinks You pay more taxes and less services, where is Their Responsibility or Input?
Alitalia=10 years, 3.2 Billion Losses (Value of Entire Company approx. 1.6 Billion)
Next on the Block=Anas (Looser, even this is your money 6 Billion approx.)
While the money makers Finmeccanica, Eni, Enel, Postal Service are deemed Strategic Sector into which the Government has to keep control (Italy is better off with this Company Badly Managed by them rather than privatize them, this is what they are saying!).
You can see the results all around you and the services they are giving you under Government management?
Who is the Idiot here?
Hostage? Who is hostage to whom here?
Who is the Incompetent here?
Who is always smiling here?
You decide, just shouted it out loud when the bucket is full OK!
Meanwhile 380 Big Italian Business Manager went to India with Mr. Prodi to make deals for your good and Country as well.
Rest my case.
While the brain drain of Italy is accelerating, the remainders are working hard on how to cope without them.
Thanks

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | February 15, 2007 03:06 PM


Hello there!
With the credibility the Italian Politicians have (Absolute Zero Kelvin degrees) I am surprise anyone is still debating what to do about Italy.
Please be realistic, from Prodi to Berlusconi, and the entire mass of Incompetents in between do you really believe they are concerned about Italians?
They wouldn’t try so hard to justify their job if they really care.
Wake up, the great mind like Newton stated the following:
1) Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it.
2) Force is F=M*Acc.
3) For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Take it into your own hand, you make your future.
Thanks

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | February 14, 2007 07:00 PM


Hostages my ass.

These imbecils don't know how to do their job and every time we have to pay for their mistakes.

OT: I just read the reaction of the Croatian leader over Mr. Napolitano's words about the foibe.
As a second-generation Istrian, I applaude the Italian president for what he said.
If the Croatian leader didn't like it, too bad for him.
What's done is done but what I want to point out is that we must be entitled to externate the feeling that were not understood for long time.
I got no beef towards today's croatians but their leader can kiss my ass for being offended by Napolitano's comments over what happened back in 1947.
If he feels offended it's because he still feels like 60 years ago.

I expect the Italian president to not apologize for his comments because that was the right thing to say.

Posted by: Giovanni Principe | February 12, 2007 08:12 PM



Beppe,

I suggest to start a project which could be called
" Progetto Trasparenza ",or " Parliament Watch " or " Employee Watch " or something of that sort, with a dedicated web site where the true activities and behaviours of our employees are constantly monitored ( like they do with us with telephone intercepts, or by putting surveillance cameras everywhere, etc; but in a transparent way, not a covert, behind the back way, like they do with us ) and updated so that we know what they are up to ( at least on the surface ), what they vote for or against, what questions they ask or fail to ask, which promises they keep and which they do not, which laws they propose or oppose, or anything along those lines, I think you get the idea, so that we can keep an eye on them, and they know that they are being watched by the people they pretend to serve and represent, and are supposedly answerable to, so that any discrepancy between what they should be doing, and what they actually do, on behalf of shadowy forces ( banks, oil companies, weapons industries, drug companies, P2, etc ) acting behind the scenes, without our knowledge, will be highlighted as soon as possible and we can become aware of it, and do something about it.
The monitoring should include the contact e-mails/
telephone numbers for all our employees, so that we can reach them and let them know what we think about their actions, or lack of them.
I think this would be a step in the right direction of bringing real democracy back, instead of just an illusion of democracy, with politicians able to do anything they want behind our backs, without ever answering for it.

Posted by: Stefano Manfreo | February 12, 2007 02:35 PM


Hello there, Italians wake up!!!!!
Mr. Cimoli has bankrupt Alitalia (1.4 Billions wasted!) and now he gets a golden parachute with money for the good job done?
Mr. Mastella, Minister of Justice has been indicted for a Bankrupt soccer club (Obviously he knows nothing?) was on the board of Directors?
Liquid-to-Gas plant in southern Italy, Politicians arrested in a scandal (Bribery, corruptions and abuse of power!), just a daily occurrence, only in Italy?
Mr. Scandal itself, Fiorani of Banca di Lodi, has reached a plea bargain and will probably not go to jail although house arrests for 3 years (6 months already served and 348 millions have been traced to his accounts worldwide), while investors and accounts holder will get the shaft!
US Based in Vicenza was approved, and the results are the following:
1)Finmeccanica will invest $11 Billions in the Lockheed F35 fighter aircraft (Assembly and manufacturing assembly line in Italy)?
2) Agusta-Westland will build Boeing Helicopters under US license in Italy for the UK and Italy defense department, investment unspecified)?
Meanwhile Politicians do not actually work (2 day of work last month for the Senate) while they suck you dry with taxes (Mr. Draghi, Bank of Italy president) stated of danger high level of taxation (That means You) the Political Establishment is in India looking to help Fiat investment in that country because in Italy, production costs are too high due to the level of taxation.
What am I missing, actually Italian are missing in action, where are you guys??
Are you asleep, wake up Mr. Prodi is handing you the YK jelly and asking you to bend over please?
Make them accountable, so far You are accountable for all their fuck-ups, while Mr. Berlusconi is busy making more money in the Banking-Insurance business this days.
What exemplary Political Representatives Italy has! Hoops maybe is the other way around?
Not sure maybe You know better!
Thanks

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | February 12, 2007 02:05 PM


Still italian newspapaer are somehow fun, the american ones scare me so much ...on Th or Friday NYtimes had a picture of a man in Bagdad seated on a carpet holding his mother which was swallowed for the scare. They were in their home and had soldiers all around them , they were doing an interrogatory or a kind of perquisition ....
And few days ago there was an article from a black journalist "explaining " why black people won't vote for the O Bar ...candidate . Somebody says that has so much attention from the media ,... so much that he is trasparent

Posted by: giuliana capo | February 12, 2007 12:03 PM


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