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Consob loves me. Since I launched the ‘Share action’ initiative they write to me regularly to ask for my advice. I’m not stand-offish and I reply. A dialogue that has been going on for months.
The Genoa-Style Takeover is going ahead. Don’t worry. The formalities to be respected are slowing things down but cannot stop it. About 4,000 people have written to me. At the next shareholders meeting I will not be able to represent them formally but I will be OK by the one after that.
The Telecom Italia shareholders meeting will be at Rozzano on 16 April. Anyone who possesses Telecom shares can take part. I invite everyone to do so. I invite all those who have told me of their interest to participate. Each one with their voice.
Each one of you counts for more than Tronchettizeropointzeroeight. The more there are of us, the more this shareholders meeting will be an important event. A true representation of popular shareholding. I’ll be there.
I hear invocations of the market from the psycho dwarf and his spokesperson in a Fez. People who really know about markets: cattle markets.
The triad tronchettibuoraruggiero has sold what is sellable from Telecom Italia in recent years. It has transformed the profits into dividends, stock options and mega salaries, golden tokens for the members of the Board of Directors always lined up.
Telecom property was sold to Pirelli Real Estate with a tiny weeny conflict of interests? They agreed it. Tim e Telecom were merged? They agreed it. A year later Tim and Telecom were separated? They agreed it. It’s the famous “token” agreement.
The biggest intercept scandal in the history of Italy escaped them. It was carried out by Telecom men, Telecom structures, Telecom money. A group of directors like that in another country would have lost their position months ago.
And they are still there. The director Ferrarini who pontificates and the director Moratti who consoles us with his smile like a good oily. The market. This is the market.
Has the Telecom spying damaged the shares and the company? I say it has. Those who were managing the company must respond and get out of our hair. Tronchetti wants to sell to the Mexicans and escape. The Milan prosecutor gets Tavaroli to say who are the “brains” behind the intercepts. These shady “brains”. But whoever could they be, these “brains”?
Everyone to the Telecom auditorium in Rozzano on 16 April!

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Have you seen King of Queens? If you wanna have a laugh inbetween pornos, I´d recommend this show. It´s really quite funny!


Posted by: Siero Panna | April 5, 2007 12:38 PM

Prof. Mill,

I had read that Ms. RB is a psychologist. How successfull, I do not know.

My perception of her is based solely on the messages she posted here and I have to say, I would not trust her with my cat! (And this has nothing to do with the fact that I do not own a cat... hahaha)

Anyway, I am skeptical of the claims, which also seem to conflict with some indications provided by herself.

Though, who´s to say. In the Paese dei Balocchi some odd things do happen. Look at who gets to the top in Italy! Said that, RB could achieve high prominence in Italy! She will probably be celebrated as Italy´s Freud... maybe by Rome´s mayor, Mr. VW. (That´s not Volkswagen!! haha)

Ok, talk to ya later!


Posted by: Dave Matthews | April 5, 2007 12:34 PM

From:Grillo's blog ITALIAN version



Ah, ah, clicchi sulla BRITISH FLAG on the top right corner of this fucking web page ti si apre l'ENGLISH version con all'interno 5 max 6 Italianissimi BLOGGERS (a proposito della POPOLARITA' di GRILLO all'estero...)la maggior parte dei quali (tipo Mr ROSSI SNERT from CANADA e Ms EVAKULNURA??? ma non solo...) con un inglese raccapricciante e altri invece con un ottimo inglese (tipo Mr DAVE MATTHES o Mr Giacomo CHIAMETTI,oltre al Prof Mill of course...).

Dunque se affermi di sapere l'inglese vieni nell'English version che così verifico, altrimenti è meglio che taci e ti tieni il tuo OLANDESE e RUSSO con i quali tutto il mondo (tranne l'OLANDA, la RUSSIA e te)ci si pulisce il c....

Cosa ti serve l'olandese?Per farti qualche zokkola ad AMSTERDAM?? Tanto lo sanno l'inglese...mica sono come le nostre provinciali ITALIANE tipo Mrs BELLANDI...ah, ah, ah...


Proof Joe

P.S. I've just learned on the WEB that Ms (or Mrs??) ProfessoFessa RAFFAELLA BIFERALE is an established and well-known job psycologist in ROME and I found this quite stunning if you take into account her past ridiculous messages (see below when she talked about Mr D'ELIA's case)....ah, ah, ah

It's quite astounishing, isn't it DAVE?

Italy is a very FUNNY country:I have no doubt about it...what about you????!!!


About D'Elia:
I know, he was convicted because of a great crime, but...there is a difference, maybe not significant before the law, but for me very considerable: he did wrong, but not because of his personal gain, but because of his (wrong) convictions. He didn't make money through shady dealing.
In my strictly personal scale of values thit is a very important difference.

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | June 9, 2006 12:52 PM


AH, AH, AH...that's INCREDIBLE!!!I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!! Just for once NO COMMENT because I'm a gentleman!!

However, as for as Mrs ProfessoFessa RAFFAELLA BIFERALE's strictly personal scale of values is concerned, if in her view to kill a cop (Mr Dionisi) not for money but for a (wrong)firm belief or ideology (the COMMUNISM)can be still considered accettable (Mrs Dionisi's widow permitting, of course...)to appoint Mr D'Elia as the new Secretary General of the Lower House (so not just an ordinary deputy as Mr Previti, for instance),well why not ask Mr FINI or Mrs Mussolini to stand for next elections Mr VALERIO FIORAVANTI and Ms FRANCESCA MAMBRO, both known as controversial and fishy figures of the Fascist terrorism?

After all, they didn't make money through shady dealing but they killed buckets of cops for their (wrong)personal convictions and dreadful ideology (the FASCISM), exactly as Mr Sergio D'Elia did many years ago: so what's the difference,Mrs ProfessoFessa Raffaella BIFERALE?


Unfortunately I agree with Silvestro di Pietro, when he says that italian parliament is an expression of italian people. Why did italian people vote for convicted politicians? It seems they don't give a shit about it. Still, it would be so easy: we had only to vote for parties without convicted candidates. I did it.

Posted by: Raffaella Biferale | November 19, 2006 01:16 PM

No, You didn't, Mrs ProfessoFessA RAFFAELLA BIFERALE!!!
I REGRET to inform you that if you have casted your vote for RIFONDAZIONE COMUNISTA's party last April, there was a fishy candidate called Mr FRANCESCO CARUSO, a well-known shady and controversial figure in Italy's anti-globalisation movement,who was facing 33 very serious COUNTS such as EVERSION and ACTS of VANDALISM before standing as a Candidate at elections in order to dodge his penal trials which were highly likely to end with a harsh conviction if only he hadn't get his PARLIAMENTARY IMMUNITY after his election.

So in the end I totally agree with you when you say that we should only cast our vote for parties without convicted candidates..the problem is that, unlike me, you didn't do it...what a shame!! I'm sorry, Mrs ProfessoFessa Raffaella BIFERALE...try again later (preferably using your little and dimmed brain next time, as long as you have one...of course!!) !!

With due respect

Prof John Stuart Mill, Mrs ProfessoFessa BIFERALE's relentless PAIN IN THE NECK!!

Dave, did you understand what I said??? This senseless foolish (communist) woman is a JOB PSYCOLOGIST....can you believed it??? I'm simply about you?

The last straw would be now that Mr Rossi Snert is an established BANKER or a rich BUSINESSMAN...


Posted by: prrooof joe SIEMPRE DURO | April 5, 2007 05:08 AM

Me loved Borat. But me prefer conspiracy. X files, ET and Rocky Balboa. my preferites movies. all UFO movies. very nice . I like. But rocki more UFO and more conspiracy. Now Dave go back to the movie. you no finished give head to prof mills. you signed contract. I sue. understand. no funny stuff. no jokes. no worry.

Posted by: Adrianaaaaaaa | April 5, 2007 03:16 AM

Cos'è sto schifo qui????

What's this comment pollution?
Why i can't read any clever comment here... lack of fantasy or just there is not any foreginer visitor?

Posted by: Simone T | April 5, 2007 02:57 AM

Oh, you took a break from pornos and watched BORAT, huh? :D Good thinking!!


Anyway, did you like the movie?

Posted by: Dave Matthews | April 5, 2007 02:53 AM

Very sorry. no more movie film. Dave very depressed.
He go to psychiatric. He remember when he touches his knob in front of mother. Great shame. Dave beaten up with baseball bat by father. no worry he no dead. Prof mills save him. Dave very happy. later no more happy. Prof mills great pedophile. He screw Dave five days a week. two day off. no holydays. Prof Mills bad guy! but small penis. Dave lucky.
No funny stuff, no joke, no worry.

Posted by: great success? | April 5, 2007 02:47 AM


What´s this fixation of yours with small penises and pornos?

Get some help!!!

Posted by: Siero Panna | April 5, 2007 02:40 AM

Hey Prof. JSM,

Raffaella Biferale--she had a website or something. You can check it out, even send her an e-mail and tell her you miss her. (I don´t!)

Anyway, nice blog, huh?

Posted by: Dave Matthews | April 5, 2007 02:38 AM

I understands. all this mess. no fighting please. next movie film more space. now only Dave and Mr Mills. if movie films go well you all porno actors.
Next title 'Dave the bored housewife'. Story very nice. Mr mills is husband. He want Dave bored housewife to get job. But Dave no want. he write in Grillo blog. All day. But one day prof mills upset.
He screw Dave behind. five hours. intense. no joke. no funny stuff. the end beatiful. Dave stop writing.
takes job. love, peace, money. I cry for emotion. go see our movie film. Great success

Posted by: Sborat | April 5, 2007 02:29 AM


Can you ever come up with a coherent sentence?

What´s ticking you off so much? Did you skip your medication today? Or do you have some sensible argument to make??

I´m getting bored...

Posted by: Dave Matthews | April 5, 2007 02:04 AM

Dave in which country is a crime,not if you are in Burundi idiot, and how about harassment that is what we are doing it a crime as well moron

Posted by: Prof John Stuart Mill | April 5, 2007 02:01 AM

Pussy and mommy boy is you,f...g a....hole are you stealing money from your mommy wallet?!

Posted by: dave matthews | April 5, 2007 01:59 AM

Dave do not be a pussy!it is all fake he can do nothing!man I am disappoint in you are you pissing in your pants,for God's sake be a man do you have any balls mommy boy?

Posted by: Prof John Stuart Mill | April 5, 2007 01:57 AM

Now, what do you mean by "I know where you live"?

Are you threatening me?

Just to inform you: making threats is a crime.

Posted by: Dave Matthews | April 5, 2007 01:56 AM

Hey MIll we better get out of here now !

Posted by: dave matthews | April 5, 2007 01:54 AM

You know what happened the last time someone got rid of "all the filth they had inside"?


hahahahahahahaha :D

Posted by: Siero Panna | April 5, 2007 01:44 AM

Enough is enough!!!!!
I also born with small penis. Hairy ass as well. Really hairy. Disgusting. Often need comb. Prof and Dave very upset because stupid and very ugly. no worry. think Giuliano Ferrara. he is also ball of fat. you no fat. Only small penis and hairy ass. unlucky I know. but why you upset with world. it's because your mother prostitute?
no worry! My Mother also Prostitute.
It's because you less clever than squirrels?
No worry. you kill squirrels. So you more intelligent. Understood?. good.

Posted by: Beppe Grillo | April 5, 2007 01:35 AM

forza panino

Really, what do you suppose to achieve? :)

Get me--or prof. Mill--upset with your nonsense, your grotesque attempt at being insulting??

hahahahaha :D

I am actually grateful that you are showing off the level of your intelligence much better than I could do! :D

Good job!!

hahahahaha :DDDDD

Posted by: Dave Matthews | April 5, 2007 01:29 AM



Posted by: Siero Panna (not Piero Sanna!) | April 5, 2007 12:53 AM

Important!!! Dave Matthews and Prof Mills made movie film. title is Asdramazoz the Apefucker. Dave is brilliant as Asdramazoz. Small penis, but ok. Prof Mills wins oscar as Apefucker. Come watch our moviefilm. Great success!!!

Posted by: asdramazoz | April 5, 2007 12:31 AM


Why start a crusade to find out who did what at Telecom?

One can simply choose not hold shares. That´s it. Simple. Finished.

Let the investigators and the courts do their job. Why tie your money up in something so precarious?

Posted by: Francesco Neri | April 4, 2007 09:18 PM

it won't be that easy for minority shareholders to delegate grillo for two main reasons:

* they have to own at least 0,1% of the shares (despite i find this measure unfair, undemocratic, illiberal looking at the capital composition of modern public companies)

* shareholders who own at least 0.1% must also write to their bank, who holds the shares for them, before to allow grillo to represent them. such step takes (bureoucratic) time and can have some further obstacles due to lack of time or unconfidence.

even small companies controlled by tronchetti (or some banks) can always avoid any kind of 'genovese opa' by buying back shares on the market. it'll increase their price so they will even make profit by reselling them lately, when the company eventually will have a new property.

Posted by: paolo margari | April 4, 2007 09:11 PM

Mr. Chiametti,

Do you really think that Italians, as a whole, are better than their politicians?

I seriously doubt that.

(By the way, just look at this blog...)

Posted by: Marcello Ferrari | April 4, 2007 09:02 PM

Hello there,
When will Italian learn that these Idiotic Politicians don’t have a clue, especially when it comes to Business?
These idiots, can barely spell their name, write an infinite numbers of Laws, and surprise surprise none is implemented or enforced?
What matter are the actions not intentions, these Buffons, first sell Telecom to Fiat/Debenedetti/Tronchetti that as expected suck it dry take the profit and leave the debt.
Who is the incompetent here?
You decide?
Now they are all waiving the Italian flag, what happen to Mr. Fazio (Bank of Italy flag waving dwarf?)?
F**k these incompetent Politicians, they have done inhalf damage to Italian Investor, from IRI to Telecom, ENI, ENEL, Fincantieri, Finmeccanica, Banks.
Stay the F**k out of Italian pocket and Company, they f**ked up and now want to do it again?
No thanks go the hell and don’t come back please stay there!
Thanks for your patronage of these Idiotic bunch.

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | April 4, 2007 05:20 PM


Name a well-managed Italian company.

Right, it´s an oxymoron: Italian and well-managed do not go together.

So, why would anyone buy shares in an Italian company?

A. For speculation.
B. Because he/she does not have a clue.

If you speculate and you lose, don´t complain. You shouldn´t have gamnled in the first place!

If you don´t have a clue: again, don´t complain! You shouldn´t "invest" if you don´t know how.

Now go to your shareholders´ meeting and look at the other "smart investors" sitting next to you--you´ll have a good time crying together!


Posted by: Mike Dibello | April 4, 2007 04:11 PM

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