Responses from Parliament to V-Day


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204 parliamentarians have expressed their thoughts on the 3 points of the popular law: “Clean Up Parliament”. The responses in agreement were 122 for direct preferences, 109 for non-eligibility of convicted candidates and 82 for the limit of 2 terms of office. 22 parliamentarians replied after the closure of the poll for various reasons but I decided to include them in the results anyway.

Many of the parliamentarians did not restrict themselves to a “yes” or “no” but they gave a reasoned explanation. Below I have given 5 replies from different parliamentarians for each question. As you can see there are very many points of view and they are often clashing.

1) Do you agree that no Italian citizen can be a candidate for Parliament if definitely convicted, either at the first trial or at the second trial or if they are on trial?

Giorgio Stracquadanio
Disagree completely. Do you remember when we elected Enzo Tortora? I was among those and I am proud of it. With your proposal, Tortora would have died in his cell. Think about it, if as you say, you have democracy in your heart.

Valerio Zanone
Yes. Yes if convicted up until the end of the time they are prevented from holding public office. If they are waiting for the final verdict, until that verdict is given. The presumption of innocence is just according to the law, less so with public opinion.

Claudio Scajola

Fausto Bertinotti
Without a doubt, the parliamentarian must know how to be an expression of the rule of law of the Republic. However the law cannot go against the principle that no one can be considered guilty except on the basis of a final decision of the magistracy nor can they deny, in the country of Beccaria, that the punishment suffered restores the convicted person to full citizenship. Well then how can one defend public morality? I think that the parties should define, with this in mind, some freely chosen codes of behaviour that are binding. For example, the parties should agree on a decision to exclude from their lists - according to a principle of political and not judicial responsibility, those who have been convicted, or even sent for trial for crimes that are socially dangerous. This is why I was really convinced and I supported the proposals of Prosecutor Grasso at the last elections. On this point I find the position of the Antimafia Commission to be useful, to propose to the parties, already at the town and provincial elections, a code of practice that binds the parties to be self-regulating, especially in relation to the types of crime like mafia, money laundering, usury and so on.

Margherita Boniver
If convicted, as long as they were not convicted for crimes of opinion.

2) Do you agree that the eligibility for election to Parliament must be limited to 2 terms of office?

Ermete Realacci
There can’t be a general rule. Otherwise we would not have had Pertini, Berlinguer, and De Gasperi in Parliament.

Giuseppe Chicchi
For the DS, it is already like that. So I say “yes”

Oliviero Diliberto
Our party already uses this rule, so I agree…. Since yesterday!

Enrico Boselli
No. I would raise it at least to three. The limit of two terms of office seems appropriate for Mayors, who in the administration of the territory have a direct contact with the citizens and could therefore get a direct or indirect advantage from carrying out their role, but in the case of Parliament it would mean reducing the benefits that result from the experience of such a complex activity.

Lucio Malan
No. There are many reasons: if I thought it was a bad thing to serve more than two terms of office I wouldn’t have put myself forward to serve the third.

3) Do you agree that direct preferences should be restored for the election of parliamentarians?

Roberto Giachetti
No. I think that the best system is a constituency competition between two candidates at the Primaries. To clarify I think the best solution is the single-member constituency with two levels as in France. The preferences have contributed to the degeneration of the political system.

Gianfranco Fini
Preferences allow the voters to choose. But without a doubt in the past the collection of preferences has fed corruption because of the vast amount of financial resources needed. To allow the voters to choose, the single-member constituencies are best.

Marco Follini
I entirely agree with point 3. In a thousand and one occasions I have tried to ensure that preferences are flanking the proportional law. I think that it is necessary to restore the parliamentarians to the voters and that the most sensible way of doing this is to bring back the preferences.

Edmondo Cirielli
No. It feeds clientelism and corruption, especially in the south of Italy.

Fabio Mussi
I actively participated in the first great referendum on the electoral law that abolished multiple preferences, as around these there were formations of chains of power and interests groups. Today we find ourselves with the blocked lists (thanks to Calderoli, Berlusconi, and Fini, the latter has now become a promoter of the referendum that will destroy what he created) that put everything into the hands of the parties. These are ever more ephemeral at a political, intellectual and moral level, and ever more invasive on the level of power and on the formation of the political class. Thus I am in favour of single preferences with another electoral law.

Read all the responses in the document that brings them all together.

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