Bonino, Frattini and the open hatches

The Local House of Liberty is indignant every hour with the Government and with Topo Gigio Veltroni. It says that the uncontrolled flow from Romania and for Bulgaria is what Valium Prodi wanted. That’s not true!
The responsibility for an out-of-control immigration is the fault of both the government and the opposition. As usual. As for De Magistris, for the Great Pardon, for Forleo, for Rete 4, for the 94 billion tax dodge by the slot machine concessionaries. Just as ever basically.
On 01 January 2007, almost all the European countries imposed a moratorium period for the entrance of people from Bulgaria and from Romania into the EU.
Italy, the least organised country, where the certainty of the penalty does not exist, with the most impressive public debt in Europe, with a density of habitation like an ant-hill and with 5 and a half million precarious workers has in the words of the part time mayor of Rome "aperto i boccaporti" {Opened the hatches}
Forza Italia and Rosa nel pugno have serious responsibilities in relation to the arrival of flows of wretches. I’m reporting the speech by Frattini (FI) vice president of the European Commission and that of Emma Bonino (RNP), Minister of European Policies delivered on 14 December 2006, at the meeting of the ambassadors of Romania and Bulgaria.
Franco Frattini thanked the two countries for their great commitment to the fight against corruption that in the last few years has seen a big drop. Frattini declared that he was contrary to the limitation of entry to Bulgarian and Romanian workers to Italy, as has however happened in other countries of the EU. Minister Emma Bonino spoke and gave a welcome to the 30 million citizens Romanian and Bulgarian. She tranquilized everyone about the fictitious myth of the terror of the invasion of the foreign workers after the entry of a new country to the European Union and she reminded us that instead these people are a great resource for our country. Ms Bonino declared that she personally is against any possible moratorium period for the entrance of people from Bulgaria and from Romania into Italy. She reminded us that even when Spain joined the EU we were all afraid of the invasion and then nothing happened. But who sent us this ? Let her take of her fashion designer jacket and resign immediately. The countries of the European Union have done a moratorium. We haven’t. Why? Confindustria needs to export capital to Romania and Bulgaria where the cost of labour is much lower than here and the controls are fewer. Confindustria also needs to import labour at starvation wages. Romania and Bulgaria are perfect for these objectives. Doors wide open. Prodi did no moratorium and Berlusconi did not ask for it.
Pappa e ciccia.
Bonino deserves in-depth soon. Stay tuned.

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Insomma, se non fosse cosi pericolosamente stupida, mi farebbe solo peccato questa invasione delle menti deboli di tanti italiani da queste favole sui stranieri cattivi. Poi questo rumeno qui che dice che i Rom devono essere integrati e non essere notati. Ti pare giusto a te di dover dimenticare la lingua romena, la tua storia/cultura e tutte quelle cazzate? E perche sarebbe differente per i Rom?
Mi da proprio voglia di pregare che gli venga la luce, ma prima bisognerebbe spegnere il berluscovisore.
Poi mi chiedo, se ci buttassero fuori, tutti noi italiani e discendenti di italiani all'estero, in Argentina, Uruguay, Australia, Stati Uniti, etc.obbligati a tornarcene fra tutti ste persone di mente chiusa...secondo voi sarebbe un altra "invasione"?

Posted by: Nicola Cergo | July 22, 2008 11:56 AM

Buenas tardes.

Perdón por no saber italiano. Es mi primera entrada.

Quería saludar a todos y felicitarnos por la exitencia de este blog.

Posted by: Ernesto Allende Cafrune | November 12, 2007 07:37 PM

Please apologize to Giuda who is making graffitis here to say that graffitis are not good...It's a classical guy who is crossing the street when the lights are red and stop when the lights are green. Beep beep, Beppe smash him away:-)

Posted by: Jaio | November 10, 2007 05:54 AM

Hi there,

Italy should stop complaining and come up with a realistic plan of dealing with the influx of foreigners, especially gypsies these days. I am Romanian and I know the situation of gypsies in Romania.

Officially there are 500,000 gypsies in Romania, but not all of them declare themselves as gypsies (which is a good thing, it shows a desire to be integrated, which was lacking just a few years ago). The real number is probably around 1,000,000 gypsies. Out of this population at least 3/4 will leave Romania, basically everyone except the elders.

This is not the first mass-migration from Romania, in early '90s all Saxon population from Transylvania moved to Germany, probably more than 300,000 people. Gypsies will do the same, now that they are allowed to do it.

The majority of them will head to Italy and Spain, because most of them know Romanian and have little difficulty in learning Spanish or Italian. In fact, I saw gypsies these days on TV, speaking better Italian than they ever spoke Romanian.

In this respect gypsies' ties with Romania are very weak: certainly not the abject misery in which they lived, or the way the majority of the population looked down on them. They have a chance of changing their lives for the better outside Romania and will migrate anyway, regardless of EU or Italian last minute decrees.

And like I said before, I think for the first time there is a desire on their part to be integrated. The Communist regime in Romania tried to integrate them by force, by giving them free houses, free access to schools, jobs and so on. These programs were not successful, mainly because gypsies found the "Communist life" not attractive compared with their nomad way of living.

Nevertheless, after the Communism fell, there were gypsies that got rich pretty quickly, setting an example of standard of living for the rest of the community. Today gypsies want a better life, this is why they are in Italy. With little help, like housing and jobs (even low paying jobs), the gypsy criminality will drop to low levels and gypsies will dissapear in the background, you won't even know they are gypsies.

IMO Italy should approach this problem with pragmatism. Expulsion decrees will do no good, how many do you think you'll be able to send home: 100, 1000? They'll be back in Italy in a week time span. There is no law to keep them from moving freely. Integration is the only route - it's not going to be easy, because there'll be at least 300,000 of them, but what's this number compared to the total population of Italy?

Posted by: Dan | November 9, 2007 01:40 PM

The first son of italian minister of justice CLEMENTE MASTELLA, named Pellegrino Mastella, was betrayed by his wife Alessia Camilleri while she was spending her holidays in August 2007 on the boat of Mastella's friend Diego Della Valle, famous as patch-shoes seller. Alessia Camilleri, wife of Pellegrino Mastella, was fucked by the son of Diego Della Valle on his own boat when Pellegrino Mastella was still in the Ministry of Production in Rome where he works as useless and very salary-earner clerk.
Alessia Camilleri had moved off some days before with her parents-in-law, Clemente Mastella and his mature mistress Sandra Lonardo. All three sailed from Capri and went to Eolian Islands on the barge of the patch-shoes maker Diego Della Valle.
Some days later, Pellegrino Mastella also reached his tribe at Lipari. When he arrived there, he found his wife Alessia Camilleri totally naked on the boat with Della Valle's son and he understood that they had copulated without his knowledge while he was in Rome.
After this surprise, Pellegrino Mastella decided to divorce at once while his father, mafia's boss Don Clemente, tried to not let be known this horny story in the italian reportings.
So Don Clemente Mastella from Ceppaloni decided to block italian media about the knowledge of his cuckold son Pellegrino Mastella.
Clemente Mastella, as cuckold-himself, is now trying to block all web sites of the most clever italian people because they could let known through all the world this great cuckold misadventure of his son Pellegrino which - at now - is still nearly unknown in Italy.
At the moment Alessia Camilleri has leaved the house where she was living with the son of "fat" Clemente Mastella in Rome and she went to live with patch-shoes maker Della Valle's son in another northern italian city.
Now we all know why mafious hack Clemente Mastella is attempting to introduce a new bad law in Italy to limit peoples' freedom of expression.

Posted by: Pippo La Pippa | November 8, 2007 08:22 PM

Beppe throw this people out who write in italian.
This is the englisch Blog of Beppe Grillo.


Posted by: fabiano tavan | November 8, 2007 01:58 PM

Good politicans stay away from polictics.

Posted by: jason maggy | November 7, 2007 08:41 PM

THe best politicians go on a holiday throut their elected period so they do the least damage to the country and world.

Posted by: jason hucky | November 7, 2007 08:39 PM

Hello everyone,
Although Italy and the Institution have been and still are on the brink of collapsing for a long while, the current situation is to say the least Para dossal.
The Political establishment is soooo fucked up that no-one the majority and the opposition is incapable to get the grip of their own Incompetence.
While oil is going to $100 a barrel, energy planning in Italy does not exists, the economy with the Euro at 1.47 dollars is the nail in economy coffin of Italy.
Now even Romania is complaining with Italian Government for the rights of their Citizens (The rom that are in Italy don’t want to return to Romania, they are too well off in Italy and they commit crimes with impunity in Italy why go back!).
This is absurd, and to make the matter worst with all the Politicians and Parties that Italy has no one is willing and capable to solve anything?
What are Italians waiting for, the black hole of Government will suck all of you in the collapsing spiral of complete anarchy.
Get yourself a gun a weapon or whatever you can get your hands on to protect yourself your family and your belonging from Libya Morocco, Turkey, Lebanon, Romania, Bulgaria and even Croatia they are preparing the DDay from hell.
Rests assure all Politicians will not be there to great them on the beaches!

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | November 7, 2007 06:46 PM

biagi, mieli, agnelli, riotta, pertini e compagni,
ma guarda un po.........questa gente dicono che sono tutti partigiani e cosi benigni e sono tutti ebrei che possono andare avanti nella stampa, in tv e rai......insomma gli italiani veri e propri 58 milioni, cattolici......non esistono! cazzo di ebrei bastardi!...tutta colpa loro se i roms e migranti di tutte le razze hanno terrorizzato l'italia.....e ridotta in paese degli zingari.
cani bastardi!.....aveva ragione hitler!

Posted by: Iscariota giuda | November 7, 2007 02:10 AM

Adesso vela do io l'america!
adesso ve la do io l'italia!Adesso ve lo do io tutti quei scarabocchi sui muri delle citta'!
Adesso ve la do io, l'american woman,
Adesso ve la do io il rocche e rolle, sex e droghe!, con capelli lunghi luridi sporchi e facce di merda!
Adesso ve li do io i zingari, rom, cicani e mulatti bianchi neri e gialli! che scopano, uccidono e rubano donne italiane..........mentre amato e ferrero, bonino, prodi e veltroni e rutelli e compagni sociali del ministero degli zingari stanno a vedere porno cinema o a vedere le partite di calcio!
Adesso ve la do io.......dopo che hanno massacrato la povera Giovanna................un colpo di pistola in testa!

Posted by: Giuda I. | November 7, 2007 01:10 AM

p.s. yes, this country is the trash bin of Europe because you are all menofreghisti da cent'anni e di piu'! Ve lo merita!

Posted by: R B | November 7, 2007 12:58 AM

Now that they've discovered the murderers of the English girl in Perugia, I want an emergency meeting of Pariament to discuss the immediate expulsion of all Americans, Baresi e Congolesi!!!!!!!!!!!!! Forget "WHY NOT?"! Let's talk about expulsions!!!!!!! Italiani - siete tutti patetici da Beppe Grillo in giu e su!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: R B | November 7, 2007 12:56 AM

Did it every dawn on anyone that there is no immigration problem? That it is ridiculous for Parliament to hold an emrgency meeting only because a murder was committed by a Romanian national? That the media, both newspapers and TV, as well as all Beppe Grillo followers, fall into the same trap: propaganda! The political class of this country, like politicians around the world, don't want the public focused on the real issues like the WHY NOT? case, or unemloyment, or lack of any optimism for the future. Wake up people. Stop counting crimes by nationalities and focus on the real issues.

Posted by: R B | November 6, 2007 08:30 AM

You are either disinformed or a coward, you should know that since romania entered EU and the invasion started (there are 150 thousands of them just in Rome city alone) around 650 thousands romanian have entered in Italy in just 10 months, well you know in Rome alone the crimes rate of these people is 75.5% of the whole crimes committed.


Rome has gone from one of the most capitals of the world to one of the most dangerous, you cannot exit anymore at night, you cant go anymore to a parc without risking to be killed for a cell phone as happened already.

IT'S NOT JUST THIS LAST CRIME OF THE MRS GIOVANNA, in the past 3 months 3 citizens have been brutally assasined by Romanian gypsies and desperates.

In Italy every day the police work basically only for them now, you understand this?

If you read the local papers of every region you will understand the graivty of the situation because every days tens of crimes are committed by these people always them and albanians.

The peoples of this country have the right to protect themselves if this continue in every way possibile.

This country is not the TRASH BIN OF EUROPE and if this is what the EU is supposed to be after the EURO scam, then it's time to think back, and people soon will remove these corrupt politicians from power and we will do a DEMOCRATIC REFERENDUM wich unlike other countries we have not had, to know if we want to stay or we will send you your way.

An Italian Patriot

Posted by: Buffoni Energetici | November 7, 2007 12:04 AM


La società italiana gira a vuoto, in parecchi settori. Gira, da anni, attorno ad una grande stele, su cui é scritto a grandi lettere : « INEFFICIENZA, CASINO, CONDIZIONI DI VITA ». Il terreno su cui gira é un pantano melmoso, vischioso, talvolta nauseabondo.

Lontano da tale pantano c’ é un terreno speciale, riservato a gente speciale, i Commedianti dell’ Arte Politica. Anche loro girano in tondo, vorticosamente, attorno ad un’ altra stele, su cui é scritto: “Lotte di potere, in tutte le direzioni. Parole al vento, in direzione degli elettori, che ci credono...”.

I due terreni sono separati migliaia di km, né sono connessi da servizi postali o informatici. Quando sei stato cooptato nel terreno speciale dei venditori di fumo, non accetti di mischiarti col volgo. Né senti l’ opportunità di collegarti o ascoltarli, quelli del volgo. Tanto quelli, il voto te lo danno lo stesso...

Per avere un’ idea: fra le cause di inefficienze c’ é anche, soprattutto nel sociale:

- insufficiente riflessione, basta l’ intuito;
- inadeguata programmazione e strutturazione delle attività (preferiamo reagire alle emergenze ....); il testo “Metodi e risultati” va in dettaglio.
- handicaps sostanziali nella discussione/costruzione del consenso e nella gestione di programmi complessi, di macrosistemi, causa la mancanza di metodi adeguati;
- accettazione della confusione come quadro di attività.

E da questi “fattori di sottosviluppo” che derivano due cose: a) lo sforamento del tetto da parte dei conti pubblici; b) il calo di competitività.

Davanti a voi due strade:

- vi fidate dei politici; la destinazione finale del sistema Italia sarà il terzo mondo;
- aprite gli occhi; in tal caso fatevi aiutare da valutazioni realistiche, che troverete su:

- ; dentro la sezione ECONOMIA le valutazioni fatte da emigrati esperti; (argomento “società”)

Si tratta delle Lettere (e del Blog) dall’ Europa di Antonio Greco. Il quale ha lavorato in giro per l’ Europa per trenta anni e vive in Francia da venti anni.

Antonio Greco
(disponibile per una presentazione delle cause del degrado italiano)


P.S. Un invito. Provate a copiare ai vs amici questo testo ? Ho raggiunto la convinzione, sulla base dei contatti numerosi e frequenti in Italia, che:

- gli Italiani non hanno la capacità di uscire dai loro guai; infatti non
sanno quali ne sono le cause primarie (i loro costumi, un tantino deviati);

- le nuove abitudini fan si che gli Italiani abbiano spesso VISIONI DISTORTE SU UNA
limitano alle verità di parte, che sono cangianti a seconda del clan...

- tali condizioni sono perfette per un viaggio sicuro e rapido verso il
terzo mondo.

- una via di uscita esisterebbe: farsi aiutare dagli emigrati in Paesi

Posted by: Antonio Greco | November 6, 2007 10:53 AM

Did it every dawn on anyone that there is no immigration problem? That it is ridiculous for Parliament to hold an emrgency meeting only because a murder was committed by a Romanian national? That the media, both newspapers and TV, as well as all Beppe Grillo followers, fall into the same trap: propaganda! The political class of this country, like politicians around the world, don't want the public focused on the real issues like the WHY NOT? case, or unemloyment, or lack of any optimism for the future. Wake up people. Stop counting crimes by nationalities and focus on the real issues.

Posted by: R B | November 6, 2007 08:30 AM

ma dove l'avete trovate queste donne e uomini come frattini e amato e ferrero e prodi che sono la causa di tutti i mali oggi in italia e invece da starsene a casa......maledette.....stanno sempre a parlare di questi bulgari romeni ecc. Non abbiamo abbastanza dei nostri lavoratori che ancora devono emigrare per vivere....e questi bastardi....invece si preccupano giorno e notte di far venire i migranti dalla romania che ora sono gia 170 mila. Scommetto che questi politici non sono italiani....e sono d'israele ebrei che non fanno altro di parlare dell'olocausto e fanno le leggi e si battono solo per questi loro programmi ebraici e leggi questi romeni rom che hanno stuprato Giovanna Grumiero.........................avessero stuprato e ucciso emma bonino e le mogli di prodi e amato e ferrero e compagni sociali cosi appassionati per far venire questi rom e migranti di tutte le razze in una piccola gabbia come l'italia e la moglie di frattini.........allora vorrei vedere se la smettono di fare questa propaganda falsa e sporca di far venire altri rom. qello vorrei vedere!

Posted by: giuda iscariota | November 6, 2007 02:23 AM

Well said, buddies.
Unfortunately this is not a Europe made out of people but of "merchandises".
So who the **** cares about suburbs in your towns?
Not really Luca Cordero de Montezemolo...
You are being invaded and you could have avoided that...
I will stay tuned!

Posted by: Mark | November 6, 2007 01:16 AM

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