Stop funds from Europe to Italy

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This afternoon I have taken part in a meeting at the European Union in Strasbourg. at the invitation of Giulietto Chiesa, together with Marco Travaglio and Luigi De Magistris. At this meeting there was discussion of European funding. I’m giving a summary below. In the next few days I’ll publish my video and the video of De Magistris and Travaglio.
“I’ve come here to Strasbourg to ask you for help. To beg the European Community not to provide any more funding to Italy. The money that is arriving from Europe is increasing the metastasis that is devouring our country.
In 2006, Italy got illicit funding from the European Union, then it swindled it for 318,104,000 euro with 1,221 cases denounced. In a single year it has improved its performance by 90 million euro.
We are the top in Europe. First in football. First in fraud. Italy is fraudulent with agricultural funding. It is fraudulent with structural funds for the development of areas that are getting left behind. And I’m just referring to fraud that has been proved.
Billions of Euro arrive every year from the European Community to Italy. Where do they end up? Italian citizens don’t know. To get information they can only turn to the judges. But the judges, when they take action, are always blocked by the Government, by the Parties. So we are always kept in the dark about everything.
The financing from the European Community is our money at the end of the day. Italy participates with other countries to create the common fund that is then redistributed. Money that goes out and that then comes back. A bit like uncontrolled laundering of dirty money. Our taxes are financing the European funding whose use the Italian citizens know nothing about. If it is useful, if it is not useful, what benefits it brings, when it ends.
The Vice President of the Community, Frattini and the Minister of Community Policies, Bonino are very private people. They did not tell Prodi that Barroso had put up 275 million Euro for the integration of the Roma community. Italy didn’t ask for anything, Spain got 52 million and Poland got 8.5 million. Poland? Have the Roma people gone to Poland as well? I thought they were all in Italy. For once when we could have used the funding for a good reason we haven’t asked for it.
And it’s strange. Because even our Regions have opened luxurious community offices in Brussels, that we pay for, to get to the funding. They have more office workers than all the other States.
The billions of Euro that come into Italy are intended for useless work: roundabouts, theme supermarkets, like the TAV tunnel in Val di Susa and Mediapolis in Piedmont. They have financed projects that never arrived at a conclusion, purifiers, alternative energy. They ended up in the pockets of that grey zone that connects the parties to the companies to criminal groupings.
It is better if Italy no longer gives contributions to the common European Fund and in exchange that it has no funding. This money can be used by our government in other ways. To reduce our Public Debt, the biggest in Europe, one of the most impressive in the world.
A Debt that risks taking us under. The money could be used to reduce taxes. To give incentives to companies to invest in Italy instead of encouraging Italian companies to transfer abroad. Or even to reduce the poverty that exists in Italy or increase the starvation pensions of our old folk.
The money laundering of our cash through Brussels is no good for us. It is only useful to fatten up the mafia, to grow criminality in our country.
Also present here is the judge Luigi De Magistris. What has been taken out of the hands of De Magistris is an investigation that involved the top people of the Region of Calabria and of the Italian Government: Mastella, Minister of Justice and Prodi, President of the Council.
The investigation was removed from him by his superiors without a reason. The documents of the investigation have been taken from the strong boxes of the Catanzaro Prosecutors Office without warning him and they have been sent to Rome. The investigation is called Why Not and it also deals with the use of Community funding. In Calabria, they are waiting for five billion euro in European funding. Where will it end up?
The magistracy has been halted by the politicians. Once, in 1992, with Falcone and Borsellino, they used TNT. Now it’s the Minister of Justice who intervenes directly.
European funding is of no use to Italy. It’s useful to the political parties and organised crime. We don’t want it. Please hang onto it. Do this for a better Italy.”

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Thanks Beppe,....do let us know how we can participate and contribute. Bob

Posted by: Robert Goodey | November 15, 2007 04:01 PM


In response to jaio, it is very useful that citizens of every country go to Strasbourg and make a meeting and complains about the disappearing of euroean funding. This is money that should not go to bank accounts of politicians or managers in fiscal paradises but to make projects, to improve the live of millions of citizens. The Euoropean Court of Auditors itself sais in a report, that they nowadays not the capability to control every funding, so the fraud is very easy and not risky at all.
Fabiano
Luxemburg

Posted by: Fabiano Tavan | November 15, 2007 01:58 PM


This is also interesting:

UN OSCURO EPISODIO DE LOS “AÑOS DE HIERRO”

Uno de los sucesos más interesantes y reveladores de los años 40 fueron los movimientos monárquicos y de los Aliados para derrocar a Franco. En 1945, cuando los acuerdos de Yalta parecían determinar la liquidación del Caudillo, según expone Luis María Ansón, se urdió un plan de los monárquicos antifranquistas y de los servicios secretos useños para explotar el maquis comunista: con ese pretexto se denunciaría la “inestabilidad de España”, “peligro para Europa”, los tanques aliados invadirían el país y -- pensaban algo ingenuamente-- eliminarían con suma facilidad al vencedor de la guerra civil e impondrían la monarquía. El plan fue diseñado por Allen Dulles, el jefe de la OSS, precursora de la CIA, y acogido de buena gana por Sainz Rodríguez y otros. Don Juan, por su parte, explicará a Ansón: “Quiero que te quede completamente claro que yo no acepté el plan, y, claro, mucho menos lo estimulé (…). Debo decir que no me opuse. Escuché lo que me decían y sanseacabó”. Es decir, sí lo aceptó, aunque poniendo cara de póker. De hecho Dulles no proponía, daba instrucciones a los juanistas como si fueran empleados suyos, y no parece haber habido mucha repugnancia en los monárquicos antifranquistas –que eran solo una fracción de los monárquicos, aunque muy influyente— ante la perspectiva de ocupar el poder con tales métodos. La maniobra está en la base del célebre Manifiesto de Lausana, con el cual creyó Don Juan abrir su camino al trono, y en realidad se lo cerró para siempre. Intriga, pues, típicamente maquiavélica, pero también mal calculada, en otro artículo explicaré por qué.
“Mientras tanto, los comunistas ignoraban el papel de peones inconscientes diseñado para ellos, y no pensaban por el momento repetir una aventura como la del valle de Arán. Coincidían todos en la idea de utilizar las guerrillas para provocar la intervención aliada, pero el PCE quería crear su propia fuerza armada a fin de tener el papel decisivo en el posfranquismo. Por ello continuaba introduciendo en el país cuadros probados en el maquis francés y hasta en la lucha partisana soviética, coordinando políticamente a los grupos de huidos dispersos, y fundando otros nuevos. Hallaban pocas simpatías entre la población, como ya habían comprobado el otoño pasado, y ello dificultaba su tarea. En Rusia, los partisanos se habían implantado sembrando el terror entre la población civil desafecta, ante la indiferencia de los alemanes, para en una segunda fase concentrarse sobre la Wehrmacht. Pero en España la policía no iba a permanecer indiferente. Los guerrilleros esperaban superar estos obstáculos con algo de tiempo y la intensificación progresiva de las acciones.
Entre tanto, debían correr serios riesgos para conseguir armas, apoyos seguros -- siempre escasos--, montar “estafetas” para el correo y los suministros, etc. Las estafetas solían instalarse en huecos de árboles o bajo piedras de cierto tamaño, cerca del chozo de algún pastor o la casa de algún campesino que servían de enlaces. De este modo no necesitaban verse ni concertar citas entre unos y otros. Los guerrilleros debían vigilar el lugar antes de acercarse, pues, como ocurriría a veces, la Guardia Civil podía haberlo descubierto y preparado una emboscada. Otros problemas surgían de las querellas dentro de las partidas, la desigual formación política o la tendencia al bandidaje.
No menor era la dificultad de encontrar atención médica para las heridas o las enfermedades, fáciles de contraer en tan ardua existencia. A veces obligaban a atenderles a médicos normales, a punta de pistola, un método peligroso. La agrupación guerrillera de la zona centro insistía a la dirección, a finales de 1944: “La urgencia del médico para nosotros es de carácter inmediato, esperamos que esto no se demore”. El médico debía estar entrenado para “largas marchas y con peso encima, como es el equipo y la comida, pues de no ser así, como comprenderéis, nosotros no tenemos retaguardia y corre peligro de caer en manos del enemigo”. Y debía ser un guerrillero más, pues “una de las mayores dificultades que tenemos es que aquí existe demasiado personal inútil: mujeres, viejos y niños; en fin, muy pocos para dar la cara y lo peor es que todos comen”. El informante exageraba, pues los viejos y las mujeres contribuían a la lucha en alguna medida, y niños apenas habría alguno.
Por fin consiguieron un médico, “camarada joven y decidido”, Manuel Tabernero Antona, con los apodos Lyon y Robert, que se incorporó al grupo a finales de 1944 o principios del 45. Una carta suya a la chica que le servía de enlace con Madrid revela otras facetas de aquella vida: “Simpática camarada Flor: el día 3 por la noche bajé en compañía de unos guerrilleros a recibir las cosas que nos mandabas, y cuando regresé al campamento eran las tres de la madrugada. Como podrás imaginarte, todos estaban profundamente dormidos, porque el mismo día, precisamente, Carlos y Ángel habían regresado de un largo viaje; pero los llamé y les dije: “Camaradas, traigo carta de Flor”. Inmediatamente se incorporaron, rebosando de alegría. Tuve que encender el candil y, mientras se recreaban con la lectura de tu misiva, entre carcajadas y alborozos, a mí me correspondió ser la víctima, tuve que prepararles el café en la forma tan poética que tú sabes, machacado con una piedra y colado con un calcetín. ¡Y qué paladar más exquisito tiene! Estoy seguro de que te gustaría. A mí los primeros días estas cosas me causaron cierto efecto raro, pero ha desaparecido toda clase de escrúpulos. Referente a tu preocupación por sus vidas, ¡tranquilízate!, velaré por ellas”.
La carrera de Lyon sería breve. Llegó a dirigir la agrupación guerrillera de Gredos, pero el 13 de septiembre de 1946 caería junto con otros jefes del maquis en una emboscada de la policía, en la huerta del “tío Matapulgas”, cerca de Talavera de la Reina. Se habían reunido allí para resolver asuntos internos. La “catástrofe de Talavera” traería desarticulaciones en Madrid y Toledo, y el descubrimiento del cuartel general del “Ejército Guerrillero” en un chalé del barrio madrileño de Ciudad Lineal, provisto de una emisora manejada por un militante llegado de la URSS” (transcribo de Años de hierro)
El doble e imbricado episodio de los monárquicos, el OSS y los maquis podría dar lugar a una buena película o novela y se presta, desde luego, a muchas reflexiones. Por ejemplo cómo, a veces, gente con talante de héroes defiende las peores causas, mientras causas superiores son representadas por personas de gran bajeza. El mito de Adán y Eva, mucho más profundo que las simplezas morales de Dawkins o Pinker, lo indica: comieron del árbol de la ciencia del bien y del mal esperando ser como dioses, y accedieron a la esfera del mal y del bien, en efecto, perdiendo la inocencia de los animales. Pero nunca lograron dominar aquella ciencia.
Pío Moa en Libertaddigital

Posted by: Leon Trapiello | November 14, 2007 05:50 PM


Hello everyone,
Incompetence and apathy pays in Italy, while Integrity and Credibility are the exact opposite of what The Institution are?
The future looks so bright make sure you wear shades!
Thanks

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | November 14, 2007 05:10 PM


I dislike populism about Europen Funds..
If you don't have information about it, it's mainly because you did not looking for it!
I just advice a better look at:www.ec.europa.eu/regional_policy/country/gateway/italie_en.cfm?gw_ide=831&lg=en

I avice you to consider better the transparency criteria and the european process of evaluation about the expenditures.

I have also fund uncorrect the part about European Resources...if we don't pay it it would means we do not participate in the European Union...
so, before argue about it, let's take a look about the european budget(from where the ressources come from and how they are used..):
www.europa.eu/abc/budget/index_en.htm

Posted by: Michele Menghini | November 14, 2007 03:52 PM


Hello there,
The real sad part is not the fact that billions are going astray and in the unintended pockets.
The sad part is that the same Institutional People and Politicians in charged with the trust of doing the right thing always denounce everybody else, Parties, Politicians and Criminal.
Pointing fingers always works (In Italy especially, they become heroes immediately although Italian memory is very very very short!).and tomorrow everything starts all over again.
Where is the integrity of these accusers, all of them, has anyone considered quitting when is clear they can’t do their job?
Stop complaining, quit and go do something else, in the Private sector and not related to Politics Politician and the Public Institution!
If you can be a solution well go home you are not help at all.
Thanks

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | November 14, 2007 01:11 PM


An italian abroad thinks...

Italia stato balordo governato da balordi
Italian politicians = peasants

if only Garibaldi knew what monster he was about to create....

Posted by: Giovanni Fattori | November 14, 2007 01:09 PM


mi sembra un discorso un po' superficiale e qualunquista.

per la stessa ragione dovremmo dire di si' alla lega perche' i soldi a sud vengono spesi male o rubati a detta loro?

Posted by: Duccio Calamandrei | November 14, 2007 01:08 PM


http://www.petitiononline.com/cait2006/petition.html

mi spiace che sia finita nel dimenticatoio questa petizione. meriterebbe più pubblicità.

Posted by: Daniele Troiani | November 14, 2007 12:40 PM


Well, I think every EU-country ''should hold up the own trousers '', because nothing is really clear to the EU-citizins where the money which comes from the EU-side (...our taxe-money)is used for in their own country. It's a bizar vicious circle.I put this link on www.fonteine2.com: you can send us information in the englisch language as well !

Posted by: van Herk D. | November 14, 2007 11:25 AM


I think that what is necessary is not to make polemics for nothing.
Blair, last year said something clear: European U. Spend 27% of his budget yearly for helping the agricolture who is nothing more than 5% of europeans.
Then, 32% is to help the regions in need. All the european countries has to give to Europe a percentage of their VAT incomes. There is a tacit agreement which
is giving back this money that the countries gave to Europe the year before. The amount of the money that a country receive back is in proportion with the money sent to Brussels the year before. Nothing else.
Do we have to leave this money for others countries? Our italian way to use this funds doesn't have to be shown to all the world. Le linge sale se lave en famille, says french (Dirty cloths has be cleaned at home). To go in Strasbourg for that is like to show that we are unable to govern our selves.It's like to ask to a judge to confiscate our money because we are unable to spend it.
Last year, Bordeaux, a rich french town, received many milions from the European Fundings and what they did with this money? They did a "Miroir d'eau" which it is the faculty to have a very big square in the town covered with 2cm of whater in sommer time... The rest of the money was used to put in the middle of the town some new garbage cans. The maire of Bordeaux, Alain Jupé, named a special service which has the task to build a new file every year to ask money in Brussels. So, since, french people doesn't come in Rome to make stupid meetings not to have money in France, why to go in Strasbourg to show how much we are idiots? We can do our meetings in Rome ourselves.
But with all the inflation of italian meetings we don't have anything to export anymore, so now we try to export meetings. If this is a new joke, there is nothing to laugh about.

Posted by: Jaio | November 14, 2007 07:00 AM


A bit from humor it(he,she) never comes badly
http://www.marcvidal.cat/en/2007/11/iraq-study-grou.html

Posted by: Marc | November 14, 2007 04:52 AM


A bit from humor it(he,she) never comes badly
http://www.marcvidal.cat/en/2007/11/iraq-study-grou.html
congratulations for last post
i'm reading since spain

Posted by: Marc | November 14, 2007 04:51 AM


"In Calabria, they are waiting for five billion euro in European funding. Where will it end up?"

I'll tell you...
50 million Euros has already been distributed to the Cavallerizzo scandal, The town which the government claims has been erased off the map by a landslide BUT RATHER IN REALITY 270 houses out of 300 remain intact and in perfect condition. You can see this on www.Cavallerizzo.com

The Prefetto of Cosenza Dr. Pietro Lisi (I must thank him very much for responding to my letter so promptly and arrogantly), Guido Bertolaso, Prodi, Loiero and company have stolen our homes for their disgusting benefit to steal money from the government. In return these thieves are WASTING 50 million euros to build a NEW TOWN - and guess where? on a "Faglia Franosa"

I ask you Beppe Grillo, Why do you think the government decided to close perfectly fine, small mountain town of 400 residents tucked away in hills of Calabria just to build another town on a piece of land with "alto Rischio Idrogeologico"?

The construction for the new town has began, they are building apartments for everyone, even for the people who have refused and have not signed for this construction to take place.

And why doesn't anyone care about this mafia? All this money is being wasted, but no one seems to care?

Roscigno (Vecchio), Pentedattilo, Bussana (Vecchia), Vajont, - (all these towns have a population of 500 people and less, Coincidence?) These are just a few towns that have been closed by the Italian government. I have never in my life heard of such a preposterous thing as Closing a town just because of a little landslide. May I remind the government that 70% of ITALY has "RISCHIO IDROGEOLOGICO!" Hey Bertolaso, where do you want to move all of Italy?

"Politicamente, Calabria e' una FOGNA!"

Sincerely,
Stefania Talarico
Citizen of Cavallleizzo di Cerzeto.
www.cavallerizzo.com
www.cavallerizzovive.com

Posted by: Stefania Talarico | November 14, 2007 01:32 AM


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