Applause….

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The Lower House applauded Mastella many times while he was attacking the magistracy. A convinced solidarity of those who risk the same end. Italia dei Valori and the PDCI stayed silent. The ceppalonic one together with his party resigned.
Prodi is for the interim at the Ministry of Justice. Let him give the Ministry to Antonio Di Pietro. It is perhaps the only way to survive the anger of the Italians.

Applause
ah ah ah ah ah ah ah
ah ah ah ah ah ah ah
ah ah ah ah ah ah ah
applause from the Caste (1) all around me
applause just you Sandra (2) you’re not there
but where are you who knows where you are
perhaps you too are under arrest
because you were singing
but why sing
if I sing all the Caste goes to prison with me
ah ah ah ah ah ah ah
applause oceans of dirty hands
all around me
but your hands Sandra
I’ll never see them again
I’ve got a lump in my throat
arrest me with you (3)
why sing
act as a spy but why
if I sing the Cosca will not applaud me any more
ah ah ah ah ah ah ah
a magistrate is not
is not a robot without a spirit
Prodi (4) I have been for you
like a disc that does the Great Pardon (5)
and then gets thrown away
applause from the Cosca all around me
applause just you Sandra you’re not there
who knows where you are
perhaps you too are under arrest
because you were singing
but why sing
but why sing
if De Magistris (6) is no longer there
ah ah ah ah
but why sing
but why sing
why sing if the Caste loves me
why sing if the Caste applauds me

(1) Applause by the whole of the Lower House on 16 January 2008 at Mastella’s attack on the Magistracy with the sole exception of Italia dei Valori and the PDCI
(2) Sandra Lonardo, wife of Clemente Mastella and President of the Regional Council in Campania, under house arrest
(3) Clemente Mastella is under investigation for 7 possible crimes, among which is the attempted abuse of power in relation to the Governor of Campania, Antonio Bassolino
(4) Prodi expressed his solidarity with Mastella and turned down his resignation.
(5) The Great Pardon in 2006 was put forward by Mastella and it meant that those responsible for financial crimes and crimes against the Public Administration avoided going to prison.
(6) Luigi De Magistris investigated Mastella and Prodi until the Why Not investigation on the distribution of European Funding was taken from him.

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F***ing unbelievable!
Giacomo you are damn' right man!

Posted by: PerfidAlbione | January 21, 2008 10:02 AM


F***ing unbelievable!
Giacomo you are damn' right man!
Italy is screwed!

Posted by: PerfidAlbione | January 21, 2008 09:55 AM


Hi,
I run a top-5 investments blog in the US and happened to really like the song behing this video, does anyone know who the performer is?
Rob
WallastonInvestments.com

Posted by: Rob | January 19, 2008 08:09 PM


Well folks, as if there was the need to confirm their complete incompetence (Mr. Rutelli department!) the site @Italia.it has officially shut down.
After wasting 7 Million Euros (Unbelivable!!!) these idiots have only managed to shut down the Italian Official site for Tourism.
They are very satisfied of their own efford, since the funds available to them were 45 Million Euros (Jaw dropping unbelievable!!!).
Therefore estimated savings of 38 Millions!
The future looks bright wear very dark shades.
Thanks

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | January 19, 2008 04:28 PM


Hello folks,
If you had any doubt about the Political/Economical/Legislative capabilities of the selected Individuals running Italy, hope you got the message now.
Politically they can’t control even their own Party, Economically Italy is irrelevant, the only thing they control is how little money is left after taxes, and legislatively they put more worthless laws in the books that nobody will implement.
From Mr. Fini on the right to Mr. Bertinotti on the left, Italy is spinning down the toilet tube, keep supporting these Idiots while flushing the toilet.
Any doubt who will suffer the consequences?
They will not resign, read their lips, guilty of all charges, they all refuse to resign, what can you do?
This is the best part! “Nothing, just suck it up and pay your Euro at your nearest Gazebo!
Fooled once, shame on them, fooled twice shame on you, fooled for 60 years, well you are a masochistic sucker!
Cheers the future looks bright wear dark shades.
Thanks

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | January 19, 2008 01:04 PM


Hello everyone,
Just one question:
While Italy and the Institutions are going down the tube: Where is The President, the one that sat Italy is not in demise?
Now Mr. Prodi will take at interim all The Ministers of the Government, although standing upright and not going down!
The future looks bright wear shades.
Thanks

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | January 19, 2008 11:10 AM


Hello everyone,
The basic difference between being 3rd world Country, and acting like a G8 Country has far reaching implications and contradictions.
What makes a 3rd world Country, beside the obvious average income are basics rights and behaviors of the likes:
1) Freedom of Press and Information! (56th in the world?)
2) Justice! (Average Law Suit over 10 Years?)
3) Financial Freedom! (64th in the World?)
4) Lowest Purchasing Power of the G8! (Many Countries not G8 are above Italy?)
5) Politics! (60 Governments in 60 Years?)
These are just examples, although the list is infinite, when in a Country like Italy Politicians control 76% of the wealth of the Country, there is absolute no turnover (The same geriatric Incompetent Inept individuals are running the show!) write laws for their personal well being, is this a G8 Country?
The average Government is 13 month?
The average salary is 1300 Euros, VS. Politicians’ salary is 20000 Euros, with the Country in this condition, is this G8 Country?
With Education rated the worst in the Western Hemisphere is this G8 Country?
When 5% of Population, enjoy a standard of living way above and beyond 80% of their Countryman, is this G8 Country?
Being rated 3rd world Country, as far as I am concern is actually excessive for Italy; I would give Italy a rating of 4th World Country, because even 3rd have more dignity Italy.
300 opening for the Justice System, some 7-8 thousands apply, 70% of them deemed illiterate and rejected, some 60 opening left unfilled?
Corruption is rampant in the Institutions, and ratings are clearly demonstrating it?
Italy was a good place to come from, after a century of evolution and the EU is still a good place to come from, and not to go to?
Did I miss something?
How yes, by the way the day successful Italian emigrants shouldn’t be considered Italians, they emigrated for one reason only, Italy is a 4th World Country and going down from there!
Thanks and the future looks bright wear shades!
Thanks again

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | January 19, 2008 10:05 AM


To John Smith:

Ok John, let's keep plummeting, then! My selfish thinking is that we could be a civilized and dignified country rather than usurping a place in the G8. Your thinking is that we belong in the 3rd world and we're doing quite well in that respect. That's where the discrepancy arises.

Posted by: Giacomo C. | January 19, 2008 08:48 AM


Mastella'family GO AWAY!!

Posted by: Mario Lanfranconi | January 19, 2008 08:18 AM


I have to take expception to the comment Italy is officially a 3rd world country. Oh you complain about slow broadband, high taxes and corrupt politicians, but have you ever actually lived in a 3rd world country? This means a country where the majority of people live without access to clean water, where people cram whole famillies into 1 roomed shacks made of corrugated iron, a country where you basically bathe and drink in the same water you dispose your waste into. Electricity isn't available, while famillies often face starvation. If u catch a disease you're left to cure yourself. There is very little education, with sexism hugely prevalent
in many third world societies. Some complains abot having a take home salary of €2700 a month! Yes thus is low compared to the €5800 or so that they are paying out but when the average wage in most 3rd world country is less than €500 a year I really think that this is very selfish thinking. You think your politiciams are bad, well compares to most african and middle easterm politicians they're saints. No freedom of speech? Try iran or india or china- say something deemed inappropriate there and you'll end up in jail. A vote for women is a dream in most 3rd world countries-3rd world country? Fine move to Calcutta or Sudan if you really believe that Italy is a 3rd world country. Please try and use correct terms when commenting. When thousands of children are starving and homeless across the 3rd world I find it extremerly selfish to find people comparing Italy to that. Italy has a weak governent that needs overhauling to be replaced by a young ambitious one that takes risks. That is all contrary to many peoples opinions Italy isn't on the verge of collapse or civil war

Posted by: John smith | January 19, 2008 12:37 AM


Sorry Grace, but there is plenty of room to go much lower! Just think of the future waves of uncontrolled immigration managed by a Casta solely concerned about its privileges and indifferent to possible solutions. How do you spell chaos?

Posted by: Mark | January 18, 2008 10:55 PM


What Nicolai wrote is pretty strong,but I understand him perfectly! It's a very frustating situation and to be honest I can't see things getting better. I've lived in Italy for nearly 27 years and I think we have reached the pits!!

Posted by: grace | January 18, 2008 10:28 PM


Ora di storia.

Al liceo odiavo storia, chi se ne frega di 'sti s**nzi che si azzuffavano nel 1200 A.C.

Oggi ho fatto una ricerca su wikpedia su P2, Gladio, e personaggi implicati (oggi praticamente mummificati). Pensare che diventeranno eroi nei libri di storia mi ribollono i liquidi.

Mi piacerebbe sapere quanti italiani hanno aperto gli occhi, e quanti si stanno azzuffando -a qualsiasi costo- per prendere il posto dorato dei nostri oligarchi.

Stefano - USA

PS> Ah, alla fine della 5a liceo siamo arrivati alla rivoluzione francese (senza spiegarci perche si e dovuti arrivare ad una rivoluzione).

Posted by: Stefano - USA | January 18, 2008 07:50 PM


Hello everyone,
The Italian Card’s Castle is falling apart.
Now the game in town is to establish rules and territories for the same Geriatric Idiots to clime out of the casket.
Meantime Politicians and Family entourage defend themselves claiming, this is the Italian way of doing Politics, making offers nobody can refuse and money on the side.
Ladies and Gentlemen, in today Society Italy can’t pretend of being an integral part of Modern and Democratic World, while Institution works like they were in the Renaissance.
It’s time to face reality; either dumping these Idiotic Politicians corrupt and ideologically disconnected and obsolete or accept the fact Italy is already down the tube.
Just flush and call it the day!
What they are masterminding now will mark Italy feature for the next decade!
Be careful!
Think outside the box, they do it every time!
The future looks bright wear dark shades.
Thanks

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | January 18, 2008 05:45 PM


Hello everyone,
The Italian Card’s Castle is falling apart.
Now the game in town is to establish rules and territories for the same Geriatric Idiots to clime out of the casket.
Meantime Politicians and Family entourage defend themselves claiming, this is the Italian way of doing Politics, making offers nobody can refuse and money on the side.
Ladies and Gentlemen, in today Society Italy can’t pretend of being an integral part of Modern and Democratic World, while Institution works like they were in the Renaissance.
It’s time to face reality; either dumping these Idiotic Politicians corrupt and ideologically disconnected and obsolete or accept the fact Italy is already down the tube.
Just flush and call it the day!
What they are masterminding now will mark Italy feature for the next decade!
Be careful!
Think outside the box, they do it every time!
The future looks bright wear dark shades.
Thanks

Posted by: Giacomo Chiametti | January 18, 2008 05:06 PM


I was ashamed of being italian when I heard that ridicolous speech and all the applauses from the MP

Posted by: mario bianchi | January 18, 2008 05:06 PM


one last note: with the current electoral system, enacted with a major contribution from the questionable Lega Nord ex minister Calderoli, Italians no longer get to vote in trusted, reputable individuals. We only get to choose among political parties. In turn, the political parties nominate politicians who will sit in the parliament, and find taxpayer funded, ludicrously expensive jobs in the public sector for those for whom no seats are available in the parliament.

This virtuous process takes furious battles between party representatives, acting like starving children fighting for a bowl of rice.
We've come one step short of a true, fully fledged dictatorial regime.

Posted by: Giacomo C. | January 18, 2008 02:27 PM


I'm just hoping that international institutions will start dealing with Italian representatives and cabinet members as they have dealt with illegitimate juntas and tyrants worldwide. Enough hypocrisy.

Posted by: Giacomo C. | January 18, 2008 01:45 PM


I am afraid but the internal affairs of Italy will have to be dealth with by the italians, after all as you said it, Italy belongs to the G8.

Posted by: Dario M. | January 18, 2008 11:36 AM


Hi everyone in this Blog of truth!!!!!!!!!!!
I think it's just unbelievable all the solidarity around this person especially from all the politicians shame ican only say shame of you, Mastella is under investigation for 7 different crimes and all the government parlament and whatever is involved what they do they treat him as if is the real victim and the justice is the evil that is trying to arresting him. As someone say already all the politicians are reacting like that because they know and they are scared to death to do the same end,and I really hope one day they will.
Thanks to concede to me this space.
Gionata Frau
Dublin

Posted by: frau gionata | January 18, 2008 10:20 AM


I totally, completely back up the petition to the UN.
The Bel Paese is officially a 3rd World Country!
I sometimes sadly thing that the unfamous BR should be back to kick the sh*t out of the so called politicians illegally sitting into Parliament.

Posted by: PerfidAlbione | January 18, 2008 09:56 AM


Re: indirect taxes: virtually all goods on the Italian market are subjected to 20% value added tax. In most US states it is 5 to 6 percent. Employees cannot detract VAT from their taxes.

Re: scientific research (my field): the entire governmental budget in support of all types of scientific research grants in 2007 amounted to 50% of the 2006 budget devoted to reimbursing house representatives and senators for car rental during their fateful trips across the peninsula.

Posted by: Giacomo C. | January 18, 2008 08:59 AM


For Mike di Fabio:

my paycheck after 20 years of working in a private research institution is a grim 2700 euro a month. Yet, I cost my institution euro 67,400k per year - the so called costo aziendale, company costs. On top of that consider that gas in Italy is among the most expensive worldwide and two thirds of it is national taxes -- we are NOT federal, unfortunately ; utilities are loaded with taxes; government contributions to local communities are getting smaller, so local administrations raise their local taxes, including a tax on the property of the apartment you live in (acronym: ICI), even if you are still halfway through paying off a 20 year loan for the apartment, and a tax on the land you own, and a tax on the land you own, and this is true for farmers also, not just for realtors; all interstate highways are toll roads; are every year we are FORCED to pay about 200 euros to support the infamous RAI, the Italian public television network, a galore of politically connected journalists and pseudo-artists of dubious talents, recruited by virtue of their political loyalty or worse. This is true even if, out of dignity, we refuse to watch RAI programs, in fact a recent law (GASPARRI, enacted by the "free market oriented" Berlusconi cabinet) equated all types media and included them in the number of items covered by the RAI tax, so we pay the RAI tax for the privilege of having a very expensive and slow DSL connection in the house; the bumper sticker is about euro 250 per car; and I could keep going, except that I have to go to work.

Most importantly, though, we pay about 25% of our gross salary for our retirement funds, and funny enough, end our lives with a pension equal to 1/2-1/3 of our last net salary if we're lucky, and younger generations won't be so lucky. Why is that? because our retirement contributions are shoveled month after month into the great government-run manger. And we pay a fortune for public health and yet end up paying for doctors and drugs at the pharmacy. Why is that? Please see above.

Posted by: Giacomo C. | January 18, 2008 08:01 AM


http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=nHAilcEIl8Y

"I, the OMNIPOTENT Mastella, choose the former."

His words not mine. I think it says it all ...

Posted by: Adri Mian | January 18, 2008 07:32 AM


Italy is not a Country, but a stage on which the theater of the absurd is pushed down the throats of its unwilling citizens. A Justice Minister fulminating in Parliament against Magistrates to thundering applause, a dogmatic pope that is invited to inaugurate the Academic year of one of the most prestigious universities (another pope was also invited to address the Italian Parliament to roaring applause). I always knew that Italy was a Country full of comedians, but this is going too far!

Posted by: Mark | January 18, 2008 05:33 AM


where most people turn on their computer log into their social network (probably some kind of aggregator) watch numerous video's form their friends, and then jump on the cam to talk with family? It will not be long before everyone from a teenager to their grandparent's is going to be a "big downloader".

Posted by: adult | January 18, 2008 02:51 AM


where most people turn on their computer log into their social network (probably some kind of aggregator) watch numerous video's form their friends, and then jump on the cam to talk with family? It will not be long before everyone from a teenager to their grandparent's is going to be a "big downloader".

Posted by: アダルト | January 18, 2008 02:49 AM


I agree. What's the e mail address?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men
to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke

Posted by: anne warren | January 18, 2008 12:06 AM


I have viewed the italian federal tax laws and rates do not approach the purported 75% claimed here. Please define "indirect" taxation; is that tax that carries over to consumer prices? Perhaps you could cite some examples. Thank you, Mike Di Fabio

Posted by: Mike Di Fabio | January 17, 2008 11:16 PM


This is a request posted by another poster, "Giacomo C." in the Italian blog comment space.
He's asking Grillo and other Italian bloggers to support this as the text of a petition to the UN (the original is already in English):

============================================

Unlawfulness on the part of Italian politicians has reached a point where calling Italy a democracy becomes risqué. The United Nations should exert their surveillance over the flagrant degeneration of ethic and conduct taking place at the highest levels of this country's administrative and political bodies.

Being a politician in Italy serves only one purpose any more, that of expanding one's constituency by cynically and illegally distributing taxpayer money and favors to one's political affiliates, irrespective of the disastrous fallout of this criminal practice on society and the economy at large. As the economy weakens and jobs run out, this vicious circle is sustained by recruiting more people into state-run, corrupt and unproductive activities.

In order for this cancer to thrive, citizens are blackmailed and burglarized with taxes by the government to a level that is unheard of in other countries, up to 75% percent of a workman's income, if one considers both direct and indirect taxation. A growing number of honest and hard working Italians have been pushed onto the brim of indigence in a country that to this day belongs to the G8 consortium.

The world community can no longer turn a blind eye to this ongoing infamy, and respect the reputation of a fraudulent and self-serving political class.

Starting today, Italy ought to be monitored closely by the EU and UN for the crimes it has perpetrated against its own people.

Posted by: Giancarlo Niccolai | January 17, 2008 09:31 PM


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